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post #76 of 138
The only thing I don't like about the HP 50 is the way it looks. I think the Momentum has much more style. But it sounds great.
post #77 of 138
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Originally Posted by potterpastor View Post

You will eventually want to get it. You can definitely get okay volume out of your player, but the HD 600 is many times better with the high quality amp. Mine sounds amazing with the $120 Schiit Vali, but the 600 gets better and better the better you feed it.

thanks you've been very helpful :)

post #78 of 138

I've been very faithful to my trusty good old ATH M50 I have owned for almost ten years and I've used it to make and mix music on Pro Tools and it gives pretty good results so far. It really has this very musical dynamic feel that comes to live, lots of depth and a little too much bass which I prefer. I absolutely love it .....even to my recent purchased HE 400!

 

I was looking for a better or step up than old M50 so based on so many good reviews online, inner fidelity and amazon I ordered NAD HP50.

For the price point this should be good or better alternative to my old M50 as in house or outdoor listening.

 

I got the HP50 today and these are my first out of the box impression: (mostly vs M50)

better comfort

louder

sounds warmer than M50 ( i thought M50 was warmer)

mids and high are too dark

good bass not too boomy but less extended

forward sound - more in your face

narrower sound stage than M50

the worst .....sounds FLAT way less dynamic. Music don't sound alive.

 

Does any one have this experience, or may be it needs burn in time ? Those who eventually keep this can ever compare to M50 ?

:confused_face_2:

post #79 of 138

Btw, I am listening through Fiio X5. Great DAP !

post #80 of 138
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Originally Posted by Skyfall View Post
 

I've been very faithful to my trusty good old ATH M50 I have owned for almost ten years and I've used it to make and mix music on Pro Tools and it gives pretty good results so far. It really has this very musical dynamic feel that comes to live, lots of depth and a little too much bass which I prefer. I absolutely love it .....even to my recent purchased HE 400!

 

I was looking for a better or step up than old M50 so based on so many good reviews online, inner fidelity and amazon I ordered NAD HP50.

For the price point this should be good or better alternative to my old M50 as in house or outdoor listening.

 

I got the HP50 today and these are my first out of the box impression: (mostly vs M50)

better comfort

louder

sounds warmer than M50 ( i thought M50 was warmer)

mids and high are too dark

good bass not too boomy but less extended

forward sound - more in your face

narrower sound stage than M50

the worst .....sounds FLAT way less dynamic. Music don't sound alive.

 

Does any one have this experience, or may be it needs burn in time ? Those who eventually keep this can ever compare to M50 ?

:confused_face_2:

I agree 100% with your findings.

And I did break them in for over 100 hours...

I wound up returning my HP50.

Don't get me wrong, the HP50 is an exceptional sounding headphone, but...

The HP50 does sound more refined and less "metallic" in the treble than my AudioTechnica M50, but at the same time it is also slightly too dark at certain frequencies for my own personal tastes. As you said, bass on the M50 also seemed punchier and extended lower than the HP50, even though the Headroom graphs seem to contradict this.

The M50 is more withdrawn in the mids at certain frequencies, and the HP50 is more forward.

As you said, the HP50 did sound somewhat less dynamic than the M50 as well.

I still miss the HP50's good qualities from time to time though.


Edited by daltonlanny - 6/15/14 at 4:07am
post #81 of 138

I continue spending next couple days listening to HP50 and tinkered with built in EQ on my Fiio X5 trying to create the sound I'm looking for.

Hit and missed I managed to get some good result but thing is I 'd like this H-phone to sound good with no EQ and for an x-tra $300 it should at least a step up from my ATH M50 but ..I don't feel that way.

 

I kept comparing between these two ..not even with my HE 400, that's different story another day. What I'm looking for is somewhere between M50 and HE 400 a closed can for pool patio listening out door. Having x-tra bass is a plus when you're out door as you can feel it even with lower vol. I'm not trying to be too analytical over the sound but it has to have high end quality.

 

So frustrated I ran to Best buy today hoping I could demo some nice phones. One word...Useless! Those people are not motivated to sell headphones, the listening station never work but I did ask one guy to get me listen the HD650. One word...Mind blowing ! Even in the crowd between the chaotic sound of those TV's and people I can still listen and smile :etysmile:. It sounds really good straight from my Fiio X5, unbelievable. It is a different kinda of sound signature than what I originally want but I love it.

 

Btw, after just couple of days HP50 had bloomed and sounded so much better. Huge sound stage and clear but not crisp. It is a good can but not what I expected.It might be better for more acoustical type of music and vocal with mid freq emphasis. What bothers me the most is that  bump on mids and low mids that makes it sound less clear in the mids and lack of lower bass extension. This is where I like M50 better because it seems to clean up the cluttered freq around the vocal range so that the vocal sound clear and has its own space. It's breathing. I feel the bass is not on the right spot...more in your nose instead of on your throat like HE 400 or on your chest like M50. That's a deal breaker to me. Using Fiio E12 seems to control that problem a bit better but I don't wanna stack x-tra gadget when I'm not on my desk.

 

I suspect what I'm looking for might be something like V Moda M100..a fun V shape phone or the incredibly neutral satisfying balanced sound with just enough good bass like HD650. Though choice.:beerchug:

 

 

Anyway, too sad I'm returning my NAD HP50.

post #82 of 138

Odd request, but, could someone measure the inner cup for the HP50? Thinking about trying these, but the ear cups might be a little small for me. Not sure, but I'd appreciate it certainly.

 

Also, anyone tried the AKG K550 and the HP 50 and could offer some quick comparison thoughts?
 

post #83 of 138

Length - 6.5 cm

Width - 4.5 cm

post #84 of 138
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Originally Posted by Skyfall View Post
 

I've been very faithful to my trusty good old ATH M50 I have owned for almost ten years and I've used it to make and mix music on Pro Tools and it gives pretty good results so far. It really has this very musical dynamic feel that comes to live, lots of depth and a little too much bass which I prefer. I absolutely love it .....even to my recent purchased HE 400!

 

I was looking for a better or step up than old M50 so based on so many good reviews online, inner fidelity and amazon I ordered NAD HP50.

For the price point this should be good or better alternative to my old M50 as in house or outdoor listening.

 

I got the HP50 today and these are my first out of the box impression: (mostly vs M50)

better comfort

louder

sounds warmer than M50 ( i thought M50 was warmer)

mids and high are too dark

good bass not too boomy but less extended

forward sound - more in your face

narrower sound stage than M50

the worst .....sounds FLAT way less dynamic. Music don't sound alive.

 

Does any one have this experience, or may be it needs burn in time ? Those who eventually keep this can ever compare to M50 ?

:confused_face_2:


You either need burn in time or yours is a lemon. I have the m50x and hp50. I had the m50x before I got the hp50. At first the m50x sounded great, good bass, very clear, etc. But when I got the hp50 I first thought they were bass light and didn't like them. After awhile everything improved (maybe my brain adjusted?). I'm telling you that the hp50 sounds so good now that the m50x sounds absolutely horrible to me (veiled and flat and less clear and compressed in a can soundstage, etc.). The hp50 is one of the best sounding headphones I ever heard (I heard a **** load of stuff including the shure 846). Paired with the fiio e12 on high gain and bass boost on (some songs, not all) these boys sing ass lol. The fidelio x1 is very close (it has a touch wider soundstage, is more airy, and more bass, but the bass isn't as tight and they are not quite as clear). I might prefer the hp50 to them, although I'm keeping both and switch them up regularly.

post #85 of 138

Yeah I had burnt it all night long with X5 than I had spent two full days with it over the weekend.

HP50 did bloomed and opened up a lot after that. Sound stage is also noticeably bigger and fuller than M50. It's clear but not crisp, still pretty mellow highs compare with M50 moreover HE400.

I like the instrument separation better on M50..vocal sound very natural and exciting.

 

What bothers me most with HP50 is the boosted mids and mid bass. It makes vocal sounds thicker but less clear and the mid bass is just a little too bumpy. Also lack of deeper lower bass.

But I guess HP50 suppose to sound just that...neutral, more flat respond with slight x-tra mid and mellow highs with mid bass emphasis. Whereas M50 more fun, V shape kinda sound.

I guess neutral sound is not what I'm used to yet.But I managed to listen HD 650 ..the king of neutral slightly warm I suppose and I love it!

 

I guess I will continue to hunt for the next best thing...HD600-650 vs Denon D600

 

Keep rocking the music..:beyersmile:

post #86 of 138
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Originally Posted by Skyfall View Post
 

I continue spending next couple days listening to HP50 and tinkered with built in EQ on my Fiio X5 trying to create the sound I'm looking for.

Hit and missed I managed to get some good result but thing is I 'd like this H-phone to sound good with no EQ and for an x-tra $300 it should at least a step up from my ATH M50 but ..I don't feel that way.

 

I kept comparing between these two ..not even with my HE 400, that's different story another day. What I'm looking for is somewhere between M50 and HE 400 a closed can for pool patio listening out door. Having x-tra bass is a plus when you're out door as you can feel it even with lower vol. I'm not trying to be too analytical over the sound but it has to have high end quality.

 

So frustrated I ran to Best buy today hoping I could demo some nice phones. One word...Useless! Those people are not motivated to sell headphones, the listening station never work but I did ask one guy to get me listen the HD650. One word...Mind blowing ! Even in the crowd between the chaotic sound of those TV's and people I can still listen and smile :etysmile:. It sounds really good straight from my Fiio X5, unbelievable. It is a different kinda of sound signature than what I originally want but I love it.

 

Btw, after just couple of days HP50 had bloomed and sounded so much better. Huge sound stage and clear but not crisp. It is a good can but not what I expected.It might be better for more acoustical type of music and vocal with mid freq emphasis. What bothers me the most is that  bump on mids and low mids that makes it sound less clear in the mids and lack of lower bass extension. This is where I like M50 better because it seems to clean up the cluttered freq around the vocal range so that the vocal sound clear and has its own space. It's breathing. I feel the bass is not on the right spot...more in your nose instead of on your throat like HE 400 or on your chest like M50. That's a deal breaker to me. Using Fiio E12 seems to control that problem a bit better but I don't wanna stack x-tra gadget when I'm not on my desk.

 

I suspect what I'm looking for might be something like V Moda M100..a fun V shape phone or the incredibly neutral satisfying balanced sound with just enough good bass like HD650. Though choice.:beerchug:

 

 

Anyway, too sad I'm returning my NAD HP50.

 

I owned the HD650 and if what you are describing about the HP50 bothers you, I will be surprised in the 650 lasts long in your barn either. The 650s are quite nice, seductively warm, but regardless of their obvious great qualities they were a little dull. I just couldn't remain excited or in love with the sound signature. I think with slight parametric EQing you could have cleaned up the congestion you feel are in the mids with the HP50. Anyway, perhaps the 650 will be a better match for you. I drove mine with a Schiit Valhalla and an SPL Auditor for about a year before moving them in favour of keeping my DT880s (also now gone).

post #87 of 138
HD 600 is awesome. Highly recommended with a tube amp.
post #88 of 138

I got the NAD HP50 yesterday and it is the head/earphone that I have been looking for, more so than even the Shure SE535LTDs that I own. I tried a couple of headphones, Sony MDR-1RMK2, Shure 940, PSB M4U2, HD650, HD800, EPH-100, etc. I liked the NAD HP50 best surprisingly.

 

But I gotta say, sound is a very very personal thing, some like certain specific characteristics of head/ear phones, some don't so I always feel it is good for one whom is looking to purchase head/earphones to try them out at their local stores with their own portable rig and own favourite songs if possible before making the decision to buy it or not.

post #89 of 138
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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post
 

 

I owned the HD650 and if what you are describing about the HP50 bothers you, I will be surprised in the 650 lasts long in your barn either. The 650s are quite nice, seductively warm, but regardless of their obvious great qualities they were a little dull. I just couldn't remain excited or in love with the sound signature. I think with slight parametric EQing you could have cleaned up the congestion you feel are in the mids with the HP50. Anyway, perhaps the 650 will be a better match for you. I drove mine with a Schiit Valhalla and an SPL Auditor for about a year before moving them in favour of keeping my DT880s (also now gone).

 

Supposedly, I should look for another fun sounding headphones ( generally don't need amping) instead of more analytical ie.HD650 .But since I tried it once for a very short time It made me so curious. I am opening a can of worm and ordered one. Damn ! And it would come tomorrow :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by delrosa81 View Post
 

I got the NAD HP50 yesterday and it is the head/earphone that I have been looking for, more so than even the Shure SE535LTDs that I own. I tried a couple of headphones, Sony MDR-1RMK2, Shure 940, PSB M4U2, HD650, HD800, EPH-100, etc. I liked the NAD HP50 best surprisingly.

 

But I gotta say, sound is a very very personal thing, some like certain specific characteristics of head/ear phones, some don't so I always feel it is good for one whom is looking to purchase head/earphones to try them out at their local stores with their own portable rig and own favourite songs if possible before making the decision to buy it or not.

 

Well, where I live here in LA they are no local stores that carry a bunch of phones, Magnolia seems to be the only choice and they suck! I wish I too could try a bunch of different phones and make up my mind. Lucky you.

Anyway I'm glad you've found the one. PSB was my first crush but I chose NAD for more comfort and less weigh (btw, they are identical in sound)

post #90 of 138
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Originally Posted by Skyfall View Post

 

Well, where I live here in LA they are no local stores that carry a bunch of phones, Magnolia seems to be the only choice and they suck! I wish I too could try a bunch of different phones and make up my mind. Lucky you.

Anyway I'm glad you've found the one. PSB was my first crush but I chose NAD for more comfort and less weigh (btw, they are identical in sound)

Oic, yeah I think such audio stores are also not that common over here as well, so Im glad I was able to find a store that allowed sampling.

 

Thanks! I was doing a direct comparison with the PSB headphones at the store that I sampled the NADs, and you are right that both sounded identical but I felt that the PSB felt a tad bit "noiser" if you know what I mean. NAD sounded slightly "cleaner" and tighter. A direct comparison, the NADs are more comfortable than the PSBs but last night I was watching the movie "Non-Stop" with the NAD headphones and I had to take them off every half hour to relieve the slight "pain" in my ears lol but still I love the NADs, great sound for its price :)

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