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post #16 of 46
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Originally Posted by TheDuke990 View Post
 

I don't believe that much in so called "highend" rigs. The mid-level amps are absolutely sufficient and there are none or maximum very small differences in sound but not in costs ;) .

I compared a lot of amps (Lehmann BCL, Beyer A1, Bryston BHA-1, audio-gd, O2, etc.) and it ends up with buying an O2 because I (and some friends of mine as well) was not able to hear any significant difference but you have to gain your own experiences.

+1. I feel like for a lot for the high-end rigs, you need really expensive & transparent headphones to hear the differences if there are any. maybe you can tell the difference w/ a hd800.

post #17 of 46
I own a HD800 but I am not able to hear any differwnce.
post #18 of 46

I'm actually considering a Schiit Bifrost Uber + WA2 or just going simple and getting an Anedio D2.  Both options are just under $1500'ish.

 

Currently have the Vali at the moment and I agree that it is a great starter amp for the HD 800's.  I'm in the process of downgrading it to HTPC duties though!

post #19 of 46

I have an Anedio D2 and I wouldn't recommend using the headphone amplifier for the HD800.  The Vali destroys the Anedio D2 headphone out.  It really improves the bass, controls the highs, and improves imaging and dynamics.  I am using the D2-->Vali-->HD800 and it is very nice.  The D2 amplifier sounds immediately impressive with the HD800 but really starts to fatigue my ears after about 20 minutes.  I found I was listening at very low volumes to try to control the treble.  Now with the Vali I can listen for hours with no issues.

post #20 of 46

What about the Anedio and the Vali as the amp?

post #21 of 46
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Originally Posted by Rayzilla View Post

So the M8 is very transparent with no emphasis to the bass or treble. I think this is something like what I am looking for and it powers up the HD800 adequately? It's just hard to get over how simple it is and looks (for $700).

I really need to give a tube amp a listen to see what I really think of that sound. I won't really know for sure until I try...

Adequately? Hah. The M8 can put out something like 1 watt into the HD800...
post #22 of 46
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post
 

What about the Anedio and the Vali as the amp?

 

Stapsy's setup does sound interesting.  Would it fare better than the Schiit Uberfrost and the WA2/WA6SE combo?  


Edited by KetchupNinja - 12/31/13 at 5:38pm
post #23 of 46
I'd also suggest the Concero HP. Very good and a tiny package. Alternatively you might get slightly better results from a Concero (regular) with a Schiit Vali amp.
post #24 of 46
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Originally Posted by FatmanSize48 View Post


Adequately? Hah. The M8 can put out something like 1 watt into the HD800...

Thanks Fatman. I guess it does then. I'm not a techie. :o

 

It's such a tough decision - simple and gets the job done with portability or fancy looking with the tubes and stuff... :confused_face(1):  lol

post #25 of 46
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

I'd also suggest the Concero HP. Very good and a tiny package. Alternatively you might get slightly better results from a Concero (regular) with a Schiit Vali amp.

This one sounds really interesting. I'll have to see how much this retails for in Hong Kong. The older Invicta model looks pretty good too, maybe I can try to find a used one of that.

post #26 of 46
Invicta is about $4000 new, so I doubt you'll find one in your price range. It is a very nice unit, though.
post #27 of 46
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

Invicta is about $4000 new, so I doubt you'll find one in your price range. It is a very nice unit, though.
Wow I had no idea. frown.gif Thanks for the info though.
post #28 of 46
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Originally Posted by KetchupNinja View Post
 

 

Stapsy's setup does sound interesting.  Would it fare better than the Schiit Uberfrost and the WA2/WA6SE combo?

 

The answer to your question will depend more on the DACs than on the amp.  I prefer the Vali to the WA2, but have not heard the WA6SE myself.  The Vali is a far more detailed and engaging dynamic sound than the WA2.  I have heard that the WA6se would be the next logical upgrade point from the Vali, so it is probably better.  Personally I would rather spend the money on a good amplifier than on a similarly priced DAC.  This nothing to do with sound quality, it is that I perceive longer term value of a tube amplifier vs the rapidly changing DAC market making older DACs obsolete.


I bought the Anedio D2 used, so my total investment with the Vali is still a couple hundred less than the cost of a brand new D2.  I have only heard the original Bifrost through a Lyr and I wasn't that impressed, though if I was in the market for a DAC in that price range the Uberfrost and Concero would be at the top of my list.

post #29 of 46
Thread Starter 

Does anyone have any experience pairing any of the following amps with their HD800? I would like to hear your thoughts on:

 

  • Adding other Audi GD models to the list, such as NFB-10ES3, Compass 2 and NFB-10.33 (I think I prefer the Sabre over WM)
  • Darkvoice/La Figaro (any model since they are all within budget)
  • Little Dot MK VI or VIII (getting a little out of my budget but I would like to hear any experiences)
  • Vali is a strong consideration if I decide to go temporary)

 

I will be going to the HP shop tomorrow and most likely walking out with the HD800 (otherwise less likely TH900), Shure SE425, new pads for my RS2, and maybe an desk amp if I am satisfied with what they have available at the shop.


Edited by Rayzilla - 1/4/14 at 2:22am
post #30 of 46
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Originally Posted by Rayzilla View Post
 

Does anyone have any experience pairing any of the following amps with their HD800? I would like to hear your thoughts on:

 

  • Adding other Audi GD models to the list, such as NFB-10ES3, Compass 2 and NFB-10.33 (I think I prefer the Sabre over WM)
  • Darkvoice/La Figaro (any model since they are all within budget)
  • Little Dot MK VI or VIII (getting a little out of my budget but I would like to hear any experiences)
  • Vali is a strong consideration if I decide to go temporary)

 

I will be going to the HP shop tomorrow and most likely walking out with the HD800 (otherwise less likely TH900), Shure SE425, new pads for my RS2, and maybe an desk amp if I am satisfied with what they have available at the shop.

 

Just try and get a listen to a Bottlehead Crack with your HD800 prior to parting with serious money.

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