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post #826 of 5680
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Originally Posted by Vinnie R. View Post
 

All,

 

I think you can get a powerful enough amp for IEMs inside a DAP.  I also believe the sound can be refined to get to the level of a high quality external amp (again, for IEMs) from a good DAP.  This also eliminates the need for a cable and the plugs/jacks to connect a DAP to an external amp, which is an advantage.  Whenever you can shorten the signal paths, eliminate connectors and plugs, etc. - this is a good thing IMHO.

 

-Vinnie

For the AKs this is the defining reason as to why I use this DAP, or would any other make DAP for that matter.  I went from a brick to the AK and compromised not on the SQ but the UI.  Say what you will about iTunes but the iPod user interface is the most stable and easiest to use ever.

 

I'm so glad that Vinnie has made this statement about amps inside a DAP and IEMs. Thank you.

post #827 of 5680

While user experience is a step over AK120, AK240 remains a niche product for the richest audiophiles.

 

We need a no-compromise DAP that has:

- Great AMP & DAC all in one

- Fantastic smooth UI and UX

- Large internal storage

- Support for lossless music, as well as legit lossless music store which can push the whole music industry forward in terms of high fidelity sound (remember the push to iTunes Plus 256kbps?)

- Good music management system. Wireless syncing. Drag and drop not acceptable.

- Cheap, mass produced. Think iPod Classic

 

As far as I know, only Apple has the caliber for the above. I do hope they step up their game and bring their iPod + iTunes to a new level in the next few years.

 

We need a DAP that is not only good in sound, but also user friendly!


Edited by z3r0day - 1/13/14 at 6:53pm
post #828 of 5680
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Originally Posted by z3r0day View Post
 

iTunes is great if you stick with standard Apple ecosystem. Can't believe people bash it while ok with the likes of AK, iBasso, Fiio aka horrible UX.

 

You say Apple "ecosystem", I say Apple economic system. I don't want anything to do with enriching Apple's bottom line because they control the source of the music via iTunes.

post #829 of 5680
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Originally Posted by burtomr View Post
 

 

You say Apple "ecosystem", I say Apple economic system. I don't want anything to do with enriching Apple's bottom line because they control the source of the music via iTunes.

 

Different perspectives :) Software wise, design wise, user-friendly wise, iTunes is great. All's I'm saying.

post #830 of 5680

Cosmic is right........I deleted my post cause OT.


Edited by Saraguie - 1/13/14 at 7:07pm
post #831 of 5680
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Originally Posted by z3r0day View Post
 

- Support for lossless music, as well as legit lossless music store which can push the whole music industry forward in terms of high fidelity sound (remember the push to iTunes Plus 256kbps?)

 

 

Do you really expect to see Apple offering 24/96hz recordings? Or recordings done from LP's? Or old or out-of-print recordings?  I don't think so. Apple is strictly in buisness to make the maximum dollars from the average Lo-Fi user who doesn't even have an iPod anymore because me now listens only with his iPhone...;)

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guys, could we please not talk about Apple in an Astell & Kern thread? Thanks. I wish to find out more about this product.

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deleted - it was Apple related and not on topic for this tread.  

Edited by Vinnie R. - 1/13/14 at 7:16pm
post #834 of 5680
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Originally Posted by Vinnie R. View Post


I'm still wishing someone would crack the code and create a firmware to support headphone out and native DSD support for Vinnie's RWAK120-S and eliminate the need for externals.
That would be my dream DAP. smily_headphones1.gif
post #835 of 5680
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post


I'm still wishing someone would crack the code and create a firmware to support headphone out and native DSD support for Vinnie's RWAK120-S and eliminate the need for externals.
That would be my dream DAP. smily_headphones1.gif

 

Yeah, I was hoping Listrid would look into it since he was able to play with the firmware with his patches.  I think he got too busy for

it, but it would have been pretty sweet!

post #836 of 5680
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post


I'm still wishing someone would crack the code and create a firmware to support headphone out and native DSD support for Vinnie's RWAK120-S and eliminate the need for externals.
That would be my dream DAP. smily_headphones1.gif

 

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Originally Posted by Vinnie R. View Post
 

 

Yeah, I was hoping Listrid would look into it since he was able to play with the firmware with his patches.  I think he got too busy for

it, but it would have been pretty sweet!

 

So Vinnie,

 

I wish / would have thought / hoped you would know somebody that could do the coding part. Especially for IEM only use. It would be so sweet to have a 'onebox' RWAK120-S.

 

I have been waiting and praying it would come to pass...is there any hope?

post #837 of 5680

There is no AMP or volume control in the Astell&Kern AK240, AK100 or the AK120. Instead the volume is controlled directly by the DAC itself.

 

DAC(Volume is controlled here) -> LPF (Low Pass Filter / OPAMP) -> headphone jack output

 

The OPAMP is not for volume control, it is only there for tuning the sound. So the headphone out is technically a “line out” when at maximum volume on the AK240 (better THD+N, crosstalk etc) and best volume for connecting to your HiFi line in.

 

Regards

post #838 of 5680

I think (sadly for my own sake) the price is to be $2400. AK has linked to an article which has specified that price for the AK240. Crazy money? Well I think we all agree on that for what AK120 was selling for, as far as AK240 goes it is really a collectors item thing than anything for main stream audiophile market (I never thought I would ever use a sentence like that but seems like the day has come! )

 

I still thank AK for what they did to the audio-market, their product line got other companies to care more about design not just sound. 

post #839 of 5680
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post
 

I think (sadly for my own sake) the price is to be $2400. AK has linked to an article which has specified that price for the AK240. Crazy money? Well I think we all agree on that for what AK120 was selling for, as far as AK240 goes it is really a collectors item thing than anything for main stream audiophile market (I never thought I would ever use a sentence like that but seems like the day has come! )

 

I still thank AK for what they did to the audio-market, their product line got other companies to care more about design not just sound. 

 

+ 1 like for the last sentence ! 

Since AK100 came out , a lot of portable high-end DAPs have joined the race. I'm very impressed by the Calyx Portable DAP.


In my opinions, AK240 looks great, the most thing I do care is the volume control wheel. Hope it wont get loosen easily like ak100 and 120 did. 


Edited by silentmoon - 1/14/14 at 3:03am
post #840 of 5680
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Originally Posted by silentmoon View Post
 

 

+ 1 like for the last sentence ! 

Since AK100 came out , a lot of portable high-end DAPs have joined the race. I'm very impressed by the Calyx Portable DAP.

 

 

 

I really think it's inaccurate to imply that it's AK that have been responsible for other vendors producing high-end DAPs. AK arrived very late to that particular party, although iRiver serviced the lower end for many years.

 

The Chinese vendors (Hi-fiMan, iBasso) took an interest in high-end DAPs before the Koreans (iRiver/AK, Calyx) did.

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