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post #3856 of 8541
The iPhone 5S has a slightly higher output impedance than the single ended HO of the AK240 (2 ohm). It will certainly have a worse response. The balanced side is 1 ohm.

The better question. In my opinion, is why would Shure engineer such a flawed product (ridiculously low and skewed impedance curve) that has problems playing on most devices on the market? I personally found the 846 to sound bad on an iPhone 5 (3.3 ohms).
post #3857 of 8541

Looks like the impedance graph.  

 

 

 

post #3858 of 8541

As they should under these conditions. Only scale is different.

post #3859 of 8541
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Originally Posted by elfary View Post

I would expect that the most expensive dap ever could be able to feed properly low impedance balanced armature iems. Truth to the matter is that an iPhone 5s do better in that regard.
 And your 100% correct, it does.
post #3860 of 8541

Keep in mind that the 846 has very low impedance drop with certain frequencies coming close to output impedance of the AK.  It's also sensitive.  1/8 rules will not apply with 846.

 

I have posted that it sounded great with UERM demo.  UERM is quite stable since it has much higher impedance.

post #3861 of 8541
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

The iPhone 5S has a slightly higher output impedance than the single ended HO of the AK240 (2 ohm). It will certainly have a worse response. The balanced side is 1 ohm.

The better question. In my opinion, is why would Shure engineer such a flawed product (ridiculously low and skewed impedance curve) that has problems playing on most devices on the market? I personally found the 846 to sound bad on an iPhone 5 (3.3 ohms).


This. Anything around 2 ohms output impedance should be acceptable for any DAP.

post #3862 of 8541
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

It was purely for the joke wink.gif I actually love the stock case color, better than my usual favorite, black.

+1!
post #3863 of 8541
Quote:
Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

The iPhone 5S has a slightly higher output impedance than the single ended HO of the AK240 (2 ohm). It will certainly have a worse response. The balanced side is 1 ohm.

The better question. In my opinion, is why would Shure engineer such a flawed product (ridiculously low and skewed impedance curve) that has problems playing on most devices on the market? I personally found the 846 to sound bad on an iPhone 5 (3.3 ohms).

Earphones have been made to ridiculous spec for years. It's nothing new. The Shure SE846 actually is slightly easier to drive that certain other earphones. The Earsonics SM2, for example, still causes a lot of pain for portable amps and sub-par players. The SE846 provokes less signal degradation than the SM2, though it is not an easy earphone to drive. 

post #3864 of 8541
I went for silver dragon V1 balanced cable for my shure846, sounds very good with the AK240 IMO.
post #3865 of 8541

hey guys,

 

just received my rwak240, noticed a line on the side of the unit probably due to the modification opening up the case. is it meant to be like that?perfectly acceptable if it is due to the mod. but i am just curious and asking...gonna have a fun time listening tonite...

 

Johny

post #3866 of 8541

why does a $2500 DAP have an output impedance of 2ohms?:triportsad: You would think they would know the ak240 will be used with highly sensitive iems.

post #3867 of 8541
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Originally Posted by superjohny View Post
 

hey guys,

 

just received my rwak240, noticed a line on the side of the unit probably due to the modification opening up the case. is it meant to be like that?perfectly acceptable if it is due to the mod. but i am just curious and asking...gonna have a fun time listening tonite...

 

Johny

owwwwh man...RWAK240!!..impressions asap bro..especially with the Ref 1 (Uber)

 

on another note, a line on the side of the unit? take a pic so other owners can advise

post #3868 of 8541
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Originally Posted by nazrin313 View Post
 

owwwwh man...RWAK240!!..impressions asap bro..especially with the Ref 1 (Uber)

 

on another note, a line on the side of the unit? take a pic so other owners can advise

 

the sound, absolutely stunning! i havent hear stock ak240, so cant compare those two. but coming from dx100, the sound is stunning!!

 

last year, i went into shop to audition ak120 but walked out with dx100 given i could purchase those two at the similar price. disapppointed with ak120 but man, i didn't know ak240 is such a monster.

 

i haven't loaded any of my music in, was listening to some songs pre-loaded by vinnie at red wind, that clarity, that sound stage...no regret spending 3k+ on this..

 

i am going to give it a full charge and load my own music and listen again...

 

apparently my uber is with Gavin for a trrs retermination, maybe 2 to 3 weeks time....so i am using ref1+silver#gold

 

about the line...any rwak user got this?

 

post #3869 of 8541
Looks like a scratch to me and has got nothing to do with the mod. Better check with Vinnie IMO.
post #3870 of 8541
Yeap from a non owning ak240's presepective, that looks like a scratch to me too
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