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post #3136 of 8541

I can recommend the Cardas cable for HD800. To be honest I know bugger all about audiophonics except what I like and I listen to classical music exclusively. When I bought an Ak100 when they first came out and wanted a neutral reference type Can the guy in the audio shop recommended HD800 which had also been recommended by David Mahler in these forums. The guy in the shop suggested an ALO Mk2 I think headphone map for the HD800 served by the Ak100 and replacing the Senn cables with Cardas cables. I only listened once to the the Hd with original cable and then with the cardas which was a vast improvement. I like treble but not shrill harsh treble like AKG delivers. I am happy with the current set up except for the AK which I think has a terrible UI and such a ****ty battery life. So Cardas cables I like except they seem  to twist into impossible positions compared to barided cables I ahev supplied with some other IEMS. I think the combo HD800 and Cardas and AK100 and ALO are giving me an audio sound closets to the concert hall reality. I find the Noble 6 IEMs I have subsequently acquired give a similar listening experience perhaps not as wide a soundstage but close.

 

I really dont want to hear more than I would in a normal concert hall. I see no point in listening to artificial sound.

Hope this helps in ur chopice of cable for HD800

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Originally Posted by HideousPride View Post

Sorry, I can't say I've heard much of the Hugo. I briefly gave it a shot with my CIEMs at a meet earlier this year but didn't have HD 800s on hand or in the room for that matter (SoCal was dominated by Audeze headphones on every table). If you have both the Hugo and the AK240 in pocket, maybe that's something you can report back on for everyone's knowledge.

Synergy with the HD 800 is tough and expensive to nail, I've mostly settled for "good enough" as opposed to exploring the very high-end options. I've heard the HD 800 sound better out of standalone desktop setups, but the AK240 does a pretty decent job that gets me most of the way there and doesn't leave me really wanting in any way. I will say if you use a stock HD 800 the treble might be a bit fatiguing, particularly on recordings that are prone to sound shrill and hot. Some people have zero problems with it, but treble tuning has been my pain point and primary reason for not liking a ton of headphones/IEMs out there.
post #3137 of 8541
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Originally Posted by kantana View Post
 

Looks like I'll have to buy one in and test, just wary of 300 ohm impedance on the HD800 and running it off the AK240.  I know the HD800 scales well with high end gear but I expect AK240 and Hugo to at least have a decent shot at it.

The Hugo pairs well with the HD800. In fact, I bought the Hugo because it's the best sounding portable setup I heard with HD800. I've heards the 800 with AK240 using the 3.5 SE and felt a bit under powered. Still waiting for the RWAK240 to come in (early next week) and will try the pairing again from both SE and balanced output.

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Originally Posted by holeout View Post

The Hugo pairs well with the HD800. In fact, I bought the Hugo because it's the best sounding portable setup I heard with HD800. I've heards the 800 with AK240 using the 3.5 SE and felt a bit under powered. Still waiting for the RWAK240 to come in (early next week) and will try the pairing again from both SE and balanced output.

Please please post your opinions about the RWAK240! Can't wait can't wait. smily_headphones1.gif
post #3139 of 8541

Hope someone can assist: using iMac with Android transfer to my 240 I repeatedly receive different messages, "Device Locked", "Cannot create folder", which will not allow dragging and dropping from my Finder music library. And then, without explanation, it works. Really annoying. Anyone else having this issue or am I doing something incorrectly. I would really appreciate any and all responses

post #3140 of 8541
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Originally Posted by archeryc View Post



Great review!



What cable are you using to pair with the HD800? Would you recommend Cardas Clear cable (quite expensive tho...) for the HD800?



I'm gonna choose a headphone to pair with my upcoming RWAK240. Thinking between HD800 and TH900. But for TH900 I can only use SE instead of balance out... smily_headphones1.gif

 



Hi, thanks for your kind words. My favorite HD 800 cable was actually made by a DIYer that I picked up on the cheap. I just wrote a little about cables in a different section of Head-Fi. Keep in mind that this is all in my opinion, I don't state it as fact. Copy pasted:

I have a couple aftermarket cables for various headphones and IEMs I purchased, but did so because the stock cable had one of the following problems:

1. Not the right length for my needs
2. Inflexible and/or prone to tangling
3. Frayed or damaged from use

I personally didn't hear any difference when it came to just changing out the cables regardless of the material used (bronze, silver, etc), but your enjoyment of the headphone can greatly increase if you have a cable that isn't causing you grief for one or more of the reasons listed above. And hey, if for some reason you do find the headphone seems to sound better in some way, all the better. Whether or not it's a placebo effect isn't much of a concern so long as you don't try to press your viewpoint on others

I have tested cables myself with another Head-Fier. We both had a stock pair of HD 800s at the time, and we used my Fostex HP-A8C to connect both simulatenously. I won't give the brand names of the cables we used, but we had 6 cables between us from various companies made from various materials. After spending an entire day with music we were familiar with and swapping out cables, neither of us could say with great confidence that we could pick out audible differences belonging to each unique cable.

If at all possible, I'd encourage you to test out different cables yourself and see what you think. Maybe you'll hear a difference, maybe you won't. It's also worth noting that it's highly possible that the most expensive cable will also use higher quality connectors/materials/have more attention paid to the construction which may influence your aesthetic decision. I wouldn't blindly buy the most expensive cable out there without testing it, but that's just my viewpoint.

I think someone just mentioned Ted from Headphonelounge, and I can wholeheartedly second his work. Extremely fast with very reasonable pricing, I picked up two cables within a week of ordering and am very pleased.


EDIT: I just remembered another headphone cable I really liked with the HD 800 I used at the SoCal Head-Fi meet earlier this year. WyWires had a fantastic cable that was super light and flexible. Based on aesthetics alone, I think it's the best cable I've seen so far. It was on the pricier side of things though. I put a bit of thought into purchasing a pair, but that was the same meet where I picked up the AK240 I'm currently using and I didn't want to demolish my wallet any further after that.
Edited by HideousPride - 5/15/14 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

Have any of you guys filled up your AK240 yet? I'm putting more tracks on and it just seems to be able to take in more! I have a 128GB MicroSD and I've not even touched any space on it yet!

I have about 7.5 on the internal drive left was down to under 1...been deleting iTunes library on there as I replace with Hi Res which I put on the 128 card. The card has about 63 left.  So......its early here in Paradise...by my calculations I have bout 302 (allowing for non available gb)

post #3142 of 8541
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Originally Posted by laurencewayne View Post
 

Hope someone can assist: using iMac with Android transfer to my 240 I repeatedly receive different messages, "Device Locked", "Cannot create folder", which will not allow dragging and dropping from my Finder music library. And then, without explanation, it works. Really annoying. Anyone else having this issue or am I doing something incorrectly. I would really appreciate any and all responses

I think it's caused if the failed drag and drop folder from the finder has been created in the AK240. Check the AK240 and delete the empty folder (probably) if it exists. I spent hours one day being driven crazy with the same problem.

post #3143 of 8541

Thanks so much for responding-you are so right, driving me crazy!.  But not sure I understand. I am attempting to drag and drop from my iTunes library into a folder on the 240. (I'm organizing by folder) All my folders have music already in them, so I don't want to delete. Any thoughts? How do you add music to your 240? Thanks again.

post #3144 of 8541
Anybody get there new case from Ted yet?
post #3145 of 8541
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Originally Posted by laurencewayne View Post

Hope someone can assist: using iMac with Android transfer to my 240 I repeatedly receive different messages, "Device Locked", "Cannot create folder", which will not allow dragging and dropping from my Finder music library. And then, without explanation, it works. Really annoying. Anyone else having this issue or am I doing something incorrectly. I would really appreciate any and all responses
Your music files need to be sub files. Under the main music file you have like three files right?
Download, and 2 others right?
There I made 3 files called iTunes, noitunes, and SD. It is into these folders that I copy the actual music into.

If you've just populated the main directory like I did at first. Just erase and start again is the best advice I've got.
post #3146 of 8541
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Originally Posted by laurencewayne View Post
 

Thanks so much for responding-you are so right, driving me crazy!.  But not sure I understand. I am attempting to drag and drop from my iTunes library into a folder on the 240. (I'm organizing by folder) All my folders have music already in them, so I don't want to delete. Any thoughts? How do you add music to your 240? Thanks again.

This isn't just a OSX problem, I ran into it from Windows as well.  You may not see the folder from finder/explorer.  Instead use the folder button on the AK240, hold then drag n drop to the left to delete.  You can copy the folder then.

post #3147 of 8541
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Originally Posted by laurencewayne View Post
 

Thanks so much for responding-you are so right, driving me crazy!.  But not sure I understand. I am attempting to drag and drop from my iTunes library into a folder on the 240. (I'm organizing by folder) All my folders have music already in them, so I don't want to delete. Any thoughts? How do you add music to your 240? Thanks again.

I basically did exactly what you're doing. Whenever I got that message, it was a folder that failed and was deleted from the Android File Transfer application but still existed in the AK240. I have one folder that contains all lossless files I called Lossless. Within that folder I have multiple folders with Artists>Albums>Songs. I drag the Lossless folder to the file transfer application and wait while it populates the AK240. When it would fail it was because of what I already I already explained. It is really a pain to figure out which one of the sub folder was the offender, but I finally made it though the transfer of the 9000 songs on my DAP. Maybe in your efforts, you'll find another key to the problem. If so, please pass it on.     

post #3148 of 8541

Here's what mine looks like:

 

 

 

Hope that helps....

post #3149 of 8541

First and foremost, I would be remiss if I didn't thank Saraguie, chawya22, and kantana for such immediate and helpful responses. You guys are awesome! That said, it doesn't seem I'm doing anything wrong. The great screen shot posted by Saraguie looks like my directory. Sometimes I drag and it works and the next time I get multiple messages regarding "screen locked" or cannot "create folder". Must be in the 240 somewhere...and the playing of the music cannot be "stopped" just "paused"?

post #3150 of 8541
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Originally Posted by kantana View Post

Don't know how many songs I have on there but I filled the internal and have about 50GB left on the 128GB sdcard.  At last count from recently added I saw 9,600 songs but it's reset and I don't know how to see how many songs in total.
Filled the internal memory and my 128gb card. Mainly flac albums with some hd albums.
Just bought another 128gb card to fill.
I have 8 terabytes of flac albums so easy to fill any bit of spare memory.
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