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post #1516 of 8541
haha... so that we know now why we might see same product in different light.
in my case calclation is simple, 2.5k used 10% of listen time equals to 22.5k listened wide open, so for me the cost of usage of ak240 would be this biggrin.gif
post #1517 of 8541
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post


mate, when AK240 costs 2.5K for me a question sounds as follows: a 2.5k DAP or a 12K pure triode state of the art amplifier and guess i am leaning to the second option. For me portable was a cheap way to indulge in changing and buying gear, but with 2.5k i can add a good front end DAC, a pair of nice bookshelf speakers and etc... and since my listen time for portable is only 10% you might guess what i will buy first tongue.gif

 

Just kidding. You guys are entitled to cry about the insane price tag for a piece of dap which may not even have a clean LO.

 

It's all about implementation of the circuit for the audio path. To me it's all about transparency and neutrality. I have serious doubt the amp in that one piece can compete with a dedicated and separately powered external amp designed to strike for the best transparency, assuming it does indeed have a clean LO.

 

I don't mind buying one at that price if it's really worthy of the sound in comparison to these rockboxed 256GB CF DMod's powered by one of the cleanest and most transparent amp.


Edited by DMinor - 2/3/14 at 11:42am
post #1518 of 8541
look, give us a break, or we are not allowed even to cry?

I hope Calyx M will make iRiver cry tongue.gif
post #1519 of 8541
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

look, give us a break, or we are not allowed even to cry?

I hope Calyx M will make iRiver cry tongue.gif

 

You can cry but no tears are allowed.

post #1520 of 8541

cry me a iriver

post #1521 of 8541

 

 

As you wish

post #1522 of 8541
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VZ, I love it. You have ALL the gear. Lucky you. How do you find time to work?smily_headphones1.gif

 

I do, then I find more gear to play with. Then I get confused because I have too much gear. Then I delegate older gear to audiophile buddies to enjoy. Then I collect their thoughts, then I post on head-fi.

 

Büyäh.

post #1523 of 8541
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

look, give us a break, or we are not allowed even to cry?

I hope Calyx M will make iRiver cry tongue.gif

I suspect cannot

Ak240 is the only DAP that can natively process DSD

We need some owners to load some dsf files in and use these dsf files to convert to flac 24/88...and load the flac files in. And share some impressions on which file type the ak240 handles the best.
post #1524 of 8541
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Originally Posted by wongtonypr View Post
 

I bought it from DMA in HK today too.

After listen to the 240 longer, I really find that 240 is much better than 120. The sound information and sonics has rise to a new level.

I am getting lazy to compare them as the 240 clearly is the winner when I start listening to it.

If ak120 is very good, ak240 would be VERY VERY VERY good.

 

Tony 

 

Thanks for posting your thoughts!

 

Will you have time before going back to school so I can listen to your AK240 and compare it to the AK120-S - ASP TU-05/ TUR-06?

 

Email or call me.

 

Gavin

post #1525 of 8541
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

 

I still don't know what headphones these are. They are balanced and pretty heavy. Couldn't find the name anywhere and I forgot to ask mainly because I wasn't too interested in them. Sounded pretty similar to the Ultrasone Signature pro I tried earlier this day. Maybe a bit more airy and with less bass.

 

This was from a few pages back in the thread.  I like puzzles.  I found the headphone here:  

 

http://www.obravo-global.com/Product/Overview.aspx?Id=24

 

Looks like it is a two-way design with AMT tweeter.  

post #1526 of 8541
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Looks like it is a two-way design...

 

            

post #1527 of 8541
So there i was testing the 240, got to adMit it is quite a beast in a little shell.

Overll, much airy soundstage feel, vocal sweeter and forward compared to 120. Most obvious was the bass impact, much deeper and punchier/bounce

If budget was not a concerm, i would def buy it, but in reality, hving a cheapet dap and pairing wf amp and different IC cables would provide more flezibility in terms of sound and cost.



post #1528 of 8541
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Originally Posted by achl354 View Post

So there i was testing the 240, got to adMit it is quite a beast in a little shell.



Overll, much airy soundstage feel, vocal sweeter and forward compared to 120. Most obvious was the bass impact, much deeper and punchier/bounce



If budget was not a concerm, i would def buy it, but in reality, hving a cheapet dap and pairing wf amp and different IC cables would provide more flezibility in terms of sound and cost.







 



Yes it definitely not bang for buck. But from what i have read and heard it is definitely a soild step up from AK120 both in terms of sq and usability. I think the AK240 is target at ppl who just wants a high capacity portable DSP in one single box with top SQ and most importantly $$ no objective at less for $3000. If you find $3000 a lot of money then its not for you. If $3000 is pocket change then it worth considing.

If AK sells quite a few of these then i think other manufacters might follow in building the ultimate Portable where $$ is no objective. It good for industry as whole, In a few year the techology will be made avaible at lower end modesl as well.

It makes companys like sony and Hifiman, ibasso..etc want to innovate knowing ppl (Myself included) are actually crazy enough to pay almost $3000 for a portable DAP if done right.
post #1529 of 8541
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Originally Posted by eso6686 View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by achl354 View Post

So there i was testing the 240, got to adMit it is quite a beast in a little shell.



Overll, much airy soundstage feel, vocal sweeter and forward compared to 120. Most obvious was the bass impact, much deeper and punchier/bounce



If budget was not a concerm, i would def buy it, but in reality, hving a cheapet dap and pairing wf amp and different IC cables would provide more flezibility in terms of sound and cost.







 



Yes it definitely not bang for buck. But from what i have read and heard it is definitely a soild step up from AK120 both in terms of sq and usability. I think the AK240 is target at ppl who just wants a high capacity portable DSP in one single box with top SQ and most importantly $$ no objective at less for $3000. If you find $3000 a lot of money then its not for you. If $3000 is pocket change then it worth considing.

If AK sells quite a few of these then i think other manufacters might follow in building the ultimate Portable where $$ is no objective. It good for industry as whole, In a few year the techology will be made avaible at lower end modesl as well.

It makes companys like sony and Hifiman, ibasso..etc want to innovate knowing ppl (Myself included) are actually crazy enough to pay almost $3000 for a portable DAP if done right.

forunately i got the X5 in just now, with the AK240 still fresh in mind, i got to say the 240 is more of a luxury item, it does have very slick and smooth UI, but sonic wise, it is not worth the price tag

post #1530 of 8541

I think it is the "native DSD" feature that makes the AK240 costs twice as much as other high end DAP.

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