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post #1276 of 8541
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post


Yup, sorry, I was typing fast, didn't pay attention much thank you for fixing happy_face1.gif



@ian. AK240 in UK will be around 2300 GBP apparently, maybe a bit more. Hugo is 1200 GBP. You can get basically FiiO X5 which has 2 micro sd card slots plus USB OTG feature for more capacity (add a terabyte if you want) and it has coax out option. X5 will cost 350 USD, which is around 300 GBP or less, something like that.

So, even though I am molecular biologist, I think I can handle this mathematics. Even with the additional capacity options you add to X5, the whole rig is not expensive as AK240. You can get a mid tier ciem for the rest of your cash.

Thanks for that, as I said, Here in Canada the Hugo is expected to be about $50 less than the AK240 plus cable and if you don't already have a DAP the DAP on top so it will end up costing more than the 240, considerably more if you do not have a DAP already.. Weird how the cost equations reverse either side of the Atlantic!
post #1277 of 8541
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
 

I thought the Hugo was less expensive than the AK240. ? 

 

 

Jamato...  always wanted a DX100 but when it first come out it was just too technical (sorting it) so I got a WM-Z after talking with Turok... it'll be good to chew the cud if you get a Hugo, still think the DX100 thread was one of the best ever, especially the first couple of months, it was pretty awesome the stuff that went on in that thread..

post #1278 of 8541
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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post


Thanks for that, as I said, Here in Canada the Hugo is expected to be about $50 less than the AK240 plus cable and if you don't already have a DAP the DAP on top so it will end up costing more than the 240, considerably more if you do not have a DAP already.. Weird how the cost equations reverse either side of the Atlantic!


Usually here in Eu, we are the ones who got the worst prices all around the world. You guys can get Roxanne for around what 1600 USD or something? This is custom iem btw. In Eu, we have to pay I believe 1300 EUR for "universal" version of it.

 

Not that I like JHA or anything related to them. Just an example to show, in Eu, we usually always get the worst prices, thanks to our taxes, VAT and all other s**t I don't even know exactly.

post #1279 of 8541
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post
 

 

Jamato...  always wanted a DX100 but when it first come out it was just too technical (sorting it) so I got a WM-Z after talking with Turok... it'll be good to chew the cud if you get a Hugo, still think the DX100 thread was one of the best ever, especially the first couple of months, it was pretty awesome the stuff that went on in that thread..

Yes, it was fun. Took off like a rocket. The DX100 is still a great player. The DX90 will be a great player as well. 

 

I am looking forward to unbiased appraisals of the AK240. 

post #1280 of 8541
The Hugo is like the v moda but no volume or charging. It says it works for phones , but does not say what ones . It also gets limited to 16/48. Like most other apple dacs do.

Is iBasso coming out with a new dap too.?
Al
Edited by ALRAINBOW - 1/26/14 at 1:05pm
post #1281 of 8541
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

The Hugo is like the v moda but no volume or charging. It says it works for phones , but does not say what ones . It also gets limited to 16/48. Like most other apple dacs do.

Al


v-moda vs Chord? Dude, they gonna ban you from head fi :D

 

Before charging on Hugo, I think you should read more about Chord and Hugo. That's a reference grade dac/amp, comparing it to fashion brands products is just funny.

post #1282 of 8541
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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post

Thanks for that, as I said, Here in Canada the Hugo is expected to be about $50 less than the AK240 plus cable and if you don't already have a DAP the DAP on top so it will end up costing more than the 240, considerably more if you do not have a DAP already.. Weird how the cost equations reverse either side of the Atlantic!

I think the Hugo is the one product where it is reversed and people in the US are getting screwed instead of people in Europe. I remember seeing one price of $2395 USD for the Hugo and the GBP conversion puts it just shy of $2k. Then the cables and then the DAP. Good luck finding one with as much storage too.

Price wise the Hugo+DAP in Europe is the winner, in North America it's the AK240.
post #1283 of 8541
What dap goes with the Hugo ? Do they sell one to match. ??

Al
post #1284 of 8541
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

What dap goes with the Hugo ? Do they sell one to match. ??

Al

You supply the source, which could be so many things/choices. 

post #1285 of 8541
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Originally Posted by LargoCantabile View Post
 

So help me out guys. I am retired academic middle class with not so many dollars to burn but a large collection of good classical (from baroque to absolute latest contemporary) music CDs I listen to for several hours daily now I have tons of time. I am not a tech expert but I do know my HD800 with Csardas lines sounds a hell of a lot better than my old Shure and Sony UIEMS that must be replaced. And well, the portable players do succumb to wear and tear. I was thinking of replacing both IEMS and AK100. I saw someone creating a photographic sandwich of portable equipment which may be good for me hence the questions below. Oh and I have no good store expert in my city to ask. I have to order by internet and hence I must know what I want to start with.

 

  1. I was considering the AK240 but it seems on reading these columns and my own not great like of the AK user interface, that some other options may be better. I need expert advice or suggestions and I mention a few things below that I like and dislike:
    1. I like my Cowan X7 long battery life and user interface. I can set it to start play at any level folder and it will continue to play that folder in orderly track succession and then the next folder and so on whatever the level until I shut it off. Not so AK which things I play songs not music where tracks need to be played in order and maybe more than one folder depending on the musical work. I never play Songs juggled up in random order or make peculiar playlists which are tedious to make. So what Player? The new Sony ZX1? Does the DAC need to be in the player? I have l the music stored on portable hard drives? Would it be better played form these than trying to find the player with the largest GB capacity? With as many micros HD cards?
    2. The new HUGO can it be successfully sued to do the digital to audio conversion DAC, then what is used as player? New Sony? Plus a potable HD?
    3. Ok Now what about AMP for headphone (or for new CIEM) I have an ALO portable headphone amp at present? Or does the output from the HUGO DAC not need an AMP?
    4. Um this is incidental but at the moment I am weighing um whether to get a Noble 4s advantage made near me or Custom Art Pro3 or Universal Ears difficult to source in my part of the world.

All advice welcomed. Thanks guys and gals from an old fogie.:confused:

 

 

Sorry, I only feel qualified to address a couple of your points:

 

Regarding 1: Like the AK100/120, I'm pretty sure the ZX1 can only play individual songs, albums and user-created playlists - its not able to play multiple folders like your Cowan. 

 

Regarding 4: Apparently JH13Pro FP is very good for classical music because it is one of the most detailed CIEMs out there with a pretty good soundstage for an IEM. Similarly, UM Miracle is also apparently very good for classical with a relatively large and airy soundstage. I must add that I haven't heard either of these CIEMs but its what I understand from my own search for a CIEM (ultimately ordered JH13Pro)

 

All the best mate


Edited by daveyston23 - 1/26/14 at 1:17pm
post #1286 of 8541
I read a review of some of there stuff on computor audiophile website. Nice stuff and has a really cool fresh look to. Including the stacking device.


Thanks it's just wY to big to carry around to me it's a trans portable.

Al
post #1287 of 8541
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post


Yup, sorry, I was typing fast, didn't pay attention much thank you for fixing happy_face1.gif



@ian. AK240 in UK will be around 2300 GBP apparently, maybe a bit more. Hugo is 1200 GBP. You can get basically FiiO X5 which has 2 micro sd card slots plus USB OTG feature for more capacity (add a terabyte if you want) and it has coax out option. X5 will cost 350 USD, which is around 300 GBP or less, something like that.

So, even though I am molecular biologist, I think I can handle this mathematics. Even with the additional capacity options you add to X5, the whole rig is not expensive as AK240. You can get a mid tier ciem for the rest of your cash.

bingo and exactly my point, ak240 steps too far in ambition and this example shows it vers well.
post #1288 of 8541
If you wish for a mini review pm me and what I have I can tell you about

I have about ten CIEMS
As for equipment. Honestly you can asks me rev spec s I cN go to website
And give you the deats you wish. But it usage I would go to threads of devices read and post questions
And do not belive any one person as gosble. Get a few. D do a summery comparison.
I know the am 120 does gap less. I had the dap and sold it. I use a hibino hdp r10
Hope this helps.
Also regarding IEM s reviews. There are two people here I trust and know them
One is avg joe. He has reviewed in details many IEMS
The other guy is joker.
But just what you say about the jh13 you sound like
You have a good ear. Good luck.


Al
Edited by ALRAINBOW - 1/26/14 at 1:40pm
post #1289 of 8541
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post
 

 

I don't think anyone cares who earns what from where but there is a principle... if you preach quality but don't adhere what you preach you really do end up looking a bit of a pratt don't you think?

 

it's almost a irony that Young allows his music to be sold at mp3 level having a inferior quality... then announces a surmised 'uber' music format via his own DAP, perhaps I should email him and complain about the quality of sub-standard vynil & cd albums I have of his, he's sure to replace them verbatim I reckon.... otherwise he can kiss my ass if he thinks I'm forking out for the same albums.

 

I'm guessing he had no say in whether his music was sold as a low-quality mp3 due to contractual obligations at some point, so to suggest that he just allows it as if he doesn't care is baseless - there is a lot of evidence that he does care a lot about sound quality and he has done as much as possible in the recording studio over the years to ensure that his music does indeed sound great. Beyond that, he's largely at the mercy of the label since they have a vested interest in turning a profit which means using the format that most consumers use.  

 

Which substandard albums and cds do you have of his? When did it occur to you that one or more of his recordings you bought were substandard and what compelled you to keep buying his records after having this revelation? Have you ever bought a reissue/remaster of a classic album? I will gladly buy a substantially better-sounding version of a classic album and I'm sure I'm not alone on this - I thought that this was one of the joys of collecting vinyl and discovering remasters....oy vey - it's late and I'm ready for sleep. Neil FTW, as always...

post #1290 of 8541
IMHO mp3 at 320 kbit can sound very good unless you step up to high end equipment which allows you appreciate some subtleys. it depends how you listen to music too. many people are casual listeners, and if you ask them about singer mistakes in song few will be able to point out.

so i would not bash mp3, but i surely prefer high res even at redbook quality because i get better dynamics and more velvet musical sound.
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