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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

There is nothing wrong with music formats. We need to make people the users just be aware of better quality . Now consider this. Most people do not lay for there music today
And the ones that do want it cheap. Now I have all formats , and yes I do listen to mo3. If I like it. Then I go buy a better resolution. . But here is where the problem comes in.

Most of the music I like is not hi Rez and if it is , it usually stinks . So I end up finding music I do not know and learn to like it. So how many people do you think would go though that ?

Al


^^Hahaha, that sounds like me.  I've tried to like music I'm not naturally inclined towards just to go hi-rez.  I'm done with that.  I consider myself eclectic, and I just get music I like & worry about format later.  besides, with many complaints I've seen about some sites merely transcoding lower rez into high rez, I'm not really trusting these online stores anyway. 

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I hear you , but with all the money I have spent in equipment. I just have to find the hi Rez. , but unlike most I do not feel every one else needs to. I take the trains in NYC every day. And almost all have a bud or two in there ear. In all the years I am taking these trains I have never seen one person with a CIEM. Just the usual beat headphones and ear buds all kinds . So do you think all those others really care. Hahahaha

Al
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

I hear you , but with all the money I have spent in equipment. I just have to find the hi Rez. , but unlike most I do not feel every one else needs to. I take the trains in NYC every day. And almost all have a bud or two in there ear. In all the years I am taking these trains I have never seen one person with a CIEM. Just the usual beat headphones and ear buds all kinds . So do you think all those others really care. Hahahaha

Al


Nobody cares about audio as much as we do. I think I saw 1 person with ciem in my life in public, that was in my university, a possible Westone ciem.

 

Apart from musicians and us, nobody dies for ciems or high end audios. They get their stock default earbuds and B****s cans, they think they rule the audio world with their ipods and 128bit mp3's.

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Funny but true.

Al
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Originally Posted by doublea71 View Post
 


I am indeed missing your point. When could he have done something and what should he have done? Why shouldn't he earn money from a new format if it delivers the goods and there is demand for it?  How is this milking the proverbial cash-cow since nobody will be compelled to buy it? I do not feel compelled to buy the AK240, nor am I offended by its price. There - finally something on-topic...

 

I don't think anyone cares who earns what from where but there is a principle... if you preach quality but don't adhere what you preach you really do end up looking a bit of a pratt don't you think?

 

it's almost a irony that Young allows his music to be sold at mp3 level having a inferior quality... then announces a surmised 'uber' music format via his own DAP, perhaps I should email him and complain about the quality of sub-standard vynil & cd albums I have of his, he's sure to replace them verbatim I reckon.... otherwise he can kiss my ass if he thinks I'm forking out for the same albums.

post #1266 of 8541
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post

to quote Jude... The Hugo is one of the best DAC/amps I've ever heard, regardless of form factor.

I'm ordering a Hugo this week as it fulfils several roles such are my requirements... I own a Sony ZX1 and will use it with the Hugo on trips etc. (if I'm just going shopping it'll be the DAP on its own, it has an excellent SQ imo)... I also intend to use it as a DAC in a hi-fi system (CD/DAC/Amp)... then as a DAC/Amp from a PC... I can also stream music to it via my ZX1.

I really cannot see the AK240 topping a DAP/PC-Hugo combo... the cost saving is significant, which no doubt help in your retirement... if your aim is for the best SQ it's no brainer imo.

In the UK! Here the Hugo is going to be the same cost as the AK240 and if you don't have a DAP you then have to figure in that plus the cost of a cable which would I would imagine be a better quality one to match the DAP and player. In Europe and the UK (where I am from and returning to soon..Yay!) the 240 is considerably more in cost. If I were in the UK or Europe i would probably go the route your going. Here though the choice is a little more difficult.
At this level and owning an AK120 I could consider the Hugo as a viable alternative as all I would have to figure in is the cable. I am very much looking forward to April to test both out and see if they are significantly enough improved over the sound I get now out of my 120 in combination with my TU-05 which adds a considerable amount to the sound quality of my 120.

Nice choices to have though eh. And for reference OK guy, do you have a store in Kent. The portable landscape has changed considerably in the UK since i left to live in Canada in 1999. I am looking forward to the greater choice there and it is nice to know where good retailers are.
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post


Nobody cares about audio as much as we do. I think I saw 1 person with ciem in my life in public, that was in my university, a possible Westone ciem.

Apart from musicians and us, nobody dies for ciems or high end audios. They get their stock default earbuds and B****s cans, they think they rule the audio world with their ipods and 128bit mp3's.

+1, same here
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What is a Hugo ?
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

What is a Hugo ?

Its the new portable DAC from the excellent British HiFi company Chord.
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I thought the Hugo was less expensive than the AK240. ? 

 

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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

What is a Hugo ?
Do a search for Hugo and you will get lots of info. A very interesting high end dac/amp for semi portable use and one that interests me. It looks like it would be great in a home system. 

Edited by jamato8 - 1/26/14 at 12:38pm
post #1271 of 8541
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post
 


Nobody cares about audio as much as we do. I think I saw 1 person with ciem in my life in public, that was in my university, a possible Westone ciem.

 

Apart from musicians and us, nobody dies for ciems or high end audios. They get their stock default earbuds and B****s cans, they think they rule the audio world with their ipods and 128bit mp3's.

 

Dude it's 128 kbps mp3 not 128 bits. The 128bits are for you, the audiophiles. :)

 

BTW, don't judge people based on their equipment. They may well be more satisfied with their music than you are using the hi-end gears. It's a mental thing.

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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post

Nice choices to have though eh. And for reference OK guy, do you have a store in Kent. The portable landscape has changed considerably in the UK since i left to live in Canada in 1999. I am looking forward to the greater choice there and it is nice to know where good retailers are.

 

the home of hi-fi has loads of hi-end dealers... there's a couple of very respected dealers close to me, the Hugo will be about half the price of a AK240 in Europe.

 

We have HS1 in Kent which means Central London is only 15mins from Medway... there's plenty of choice in Cockneyvillle.

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Originally Posted by DMinor View Post
 

 

Dude it's 128 kbps mp3 not 128 bits. The 128bits are for you, the audiophiles. :)

 

BTW, don't judge people based on their equipment. They may well be more satisfied with their music than you are using the hi-end gears. It's a mental thing.


Yup, sorry, I was typing fast, didn't pay attention much thank you for fixing :happy_face1:

 

 

 

@ian. AK240 in UK will be around 2300 GBP apparently, maybe a bit more. Hugo is 1200 GBP. You can get basically FiiO X5 which has 2 micro sd card slots plus USB OTG feature for more capacity (add a terabyte if you want) and it has coax out option. X5 will cost 350 USD, which is around 300 GBP or less, something like that.

 

So, even though I am molecular biologist, I think I can handle this mathematics. Even with the additional capacity options you add to X5, the whole rig is not expensive as AK240. You can get a mid tier ciem for the rest of your cash.

post #1274 of 8541
Thanks for the Hugo info.

Al
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It appears to me that the notion of using our phones as a transport has gone by the waist side now. As I understand that even though I have a few dac s and amps I use my DAP daily . And wow this is a great time to be looking for a dap as there has never been this mAny choices. And really good choices too.

Al
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