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post #1081 of 5167
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Originally Posted by southbeach View Post

At the Hamburg Show 1st/2nd of Februar y there will be 4 Pieces ak240 on Demo.....including the New Air Motion 2way HAMT-1 from obravo

Yeah I just saw that AK will also have a booth there.
I'll make sure to pay it a visit.
Let's see how it compares to the DX50 :P

post #1082 of 5167

think what you will bring . take an SD card with you music on it ..    and your headphone or iems. it will allow you to judge far more accurate.

 

 

al

post #1083 of 5167
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post
 

think what you will bring . take an SD card with you music on it ..    and your headphone or iems. it will allow you to judge far more accurate.

 

 

al


That is exactly what I was going to do :)
Don't expect any super helpful impression though!
I wouldn't go so far and call my ears wooden, but they are also far away from being golden :)

post #1084 of 5167

lmao  funny guy

any impression is better than no impression , especially when you go prepared that is paramount in this. thanks and may the force be with jedi,,,,,,,

AL 

post #1085 of 5167
Looks like the balanced adapter XLR is larger than I thought. Would be interesting to drive the Abyss with the AK240 :-

http://www.astellnkern.de/downloads/AstellKern_Webbrochure_de.pdf
post #1086 of 5167
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

Looks like the balanced adapter XLR is larger than I thought. Would be interesting to drive the Abyss with the AK240 :-

http://www.astellnkern.de/downloads/AstellKern_Webbrochure_de.pdf

Thanks for the link

post #1087 of 5167

So it's official according to that PDF file, 2,499 euros within EU.

 

And the dual 3-pin XLR should be line-out since they're male connectors for something like the inputs of LAu

 

http://media.tas.zeitpress.com/articles/images/Cavalli%20LAu%20rear%20panel.jpg

 

The cables that came with Abyss were male XLR as well, they won't be good for the XLR adapter of AK240

 

http://cdn.head-fi.org/6/6e/6e5fd286_966665_498878936849882_1683621463_o.jpeg

post #1088 of 5167
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Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post
 

So it's official according to that PDF file, 2,499 euros within EU.

 

 

 

:eek:

post #1089 of 5167
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Originally Posted by daveyston23 View Post
 

 

:eek:


Why you are surprised? It is an iGreedy product, not iBasso or FiiO or not even Sony.

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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post
 


Why you are surprised? It is an iGreedy product, not iBasso or FiiO or not even Sony.

 

lol

 

Yeh, it is way expensive for a DAP. For that price, I expect it to be the best sounding player yet made. I really hope it sounds unbelievable. If so, I would still buy this iGreedy product. 


Edited by daveyston23 - 1/25/14 at 2:35am
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Today, I've been listening to the AK240 for the first time outside of a show environment--right now (as pictured) with the OPPO PM-1 (a more recent prototype of the PM-1 than the RMAF one)--and it is...just...wow. In terms of performance, features, user interface (which is responsive, intuitive, and has search), the AK240 is well beyond an evolutionary step above the AK120, which I have and love. Whereas I often use my AK120 optically connected to a CEntrance HiFi-M8 LX, I strongly suspect I’ll be using the AK240 far more often—and maybe exclusively—on its own. Versus the AK120, the AK240’s specifications show a more powerful amp section. While that’s certainly part of the equation, there seems to be more to it, as the AK240 via its headphone output has a more detailed, more full sounding presentation with the different headphones I've pushed with it so far—it’s unquestionably better.

Astell&Kern also sent their new AKR02 in-ear monitor, which, like their first IEM, is being offered in partnership with Final Audio Design, but this one based on Final Audio Design's high-end FI-BA-SS model. (I don't have the FI-BA-SS, so I can't tell you what the differences are between it and the AKR02.) My understanding is that the AKR02 was tuned for use with the Astell&Kern players, and though I'm not sure what that entails, the AK240/AKR02 combo sounds to me like a very potent, pocketable high-res system. (I expect the AKR02 will also work well with my other non-Astell&Kern portable setups, but I haven't tried it with any of them yet.) I'll have more to say about the AKR02 after more use.

 

In terms of its design: at CES, I wasn't quite sure what to expect of the AK240 ahead of my visit to Astell&Kern's exhibit. Every photo I'd seen of it confused the living daylights out of me--the design is hard to "get" until you actually hold it in your hands. At least to me, the photos were very confusing. Once in hand, though, the design really does make sense. We shot a video of it there, showing it in-hand, but the lighting wasn't great. We'll be shooting a video of it in the studio, spinning it around in-hand, and you'll see what I mean--video should help you understand what's actually going on with the design a lot more than photos have so far done.

In hand--in person--the AK240 is actually a very attractive, very striking design, to my eyes. The initial photos I saw made it look a lot chunkier than it is. In my hands, it doesn't look or feel chunky to me, though it is thicker than their previous models. Here's a size comparison photo, showing its size compared to other devices. (From top to bottom, Astell&Kern AK120, AK240, iPhone 5S, HiFiMAN HM-901, Chord Hugo.)

 

 

I haven't yet directly compared the AK240 to any other players other than its AK120 sibling, but I will.

 

Early reservations I have include price--I'm not sure what the MSRP is going to be, but I get the impression from the numbers I'm seeing in this thread that it's going to be very expensive. I also am not crazy about the choice of a 2.5mm jack for the balanced output. While time may prove my concerns about the 2.5mm jack unjustified, I'm just having a hard time envisioning some full-size headphones and their hefty cables terminated in 2.5mm, without at least the potential for issues; and with a balanced output, I think there'll be many who want to drive full-size headphones with it.

 

(I haven't used the AK240's balanced output since CES, but I will soon--Moon Audio made me a balanced 2.5mm end to go with my Moon Audio adapter cables, and that'll allow me to use several of my headphones balanced with the AK240.)

 

Outside of those concerns, so far the AK240 has been nothing but amazing. I still have a lot music and a lot of headphones to try with it--and I haven't yet tried it as a USB DAC--so there will still be much more to say about the AK240 going forward. (We'll start with a CES highlights video we're working on now.) So far, though, like I said: Wow.

 


 

UPDATE 014-01-26 18:48 EST: Quick notes, including firmware update, DSD playback, self-noise (or complete absence of it),...(click here).

post #1092 of 5167

Thanks, very interesting, looking forward to the video and other comparisons...

post #1093 of 5167

Did they send you that line-out adapter with dual 3-pin XLR with AK240? You better plug that bad boy into Liquid Gold and if you still haven't sent it back yet.

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 Thanks for the review, Jude! It seems very promising. I'm really interested to hear more about how it sounds with some of the top CIEMs. 

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Originally Posted by daveyston23 View Post
 

 Thanks for the review, Jude! It seems very promising. I'm really interested to hear more about how it sounds with some of the top CIEMs. 

Great review. I am looking forward for the detailed review, including

- balanced headphone out 

- Line-Out: is it a "Clean LO" that physically bypass the headphone AMP, or just the headphone line out with volume set to max ? is there also a balanced LO?

 

And I agree 100% with the 2,5mm balanced jack ! I would have MUCH prefered a Mini-XLR.  This will have been more ruggered and more profesionnal.  I will see if I can't mod this in mine ...if I get one


Edited by bmichels - 1/25/14 at 3:23am
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