Originally Posted by Lilfurbal
My own experiences seem to point to headphone burn in not being real, lol. I am still using the same headphones I got back in 2009, still going strong, sound the same as I ever recall them sounding which is good. However that wasn't my test. My test was that I, fairly recently, picked up a brand new pair of the same headphones. Stuck them into my DX50 with the same EQ settings, they sound 100% exactly the same. Exactly. I was actually surprised by how identical the new sounded right next to the old highly-burned in pair. Direct a/b comparisons lead me to believe burn in is a mental thing. To really know for sure you need two pairs of the same headphones. Burn in one pair, leave the other pair alone. Do a/b comparisons. Mine resulted in no change, so I became a believer that burn in is not relevant. Which is also good, since I feel it should sound optimal out of the box so I can make my decision of whether or not I like the new sound after my brain is done getting use to it. In the meantime I'll be listening to it directly, not letting it play on its own for a couple days.
I do find that article a pretty good one. Based on my own experiences, he speaks truth. I'd prefer to see scientific graphs, if a pair of headphones looks the same on paper before and after burn in then nothing should have changed. Only pure data can reveal the truth, what anyone thinks they hear is not a proper test, mind has been proven to play tricks on us. I don't trust my own brain anymore than I would someone else's.
I still don't even know if I can hear differences between 16/44.1 or 24/192 khz. I like to think I do, that I identify new details and clarity or something that I haven't noticed before. Then I return to the cd counterpart and hear the new found details the same way, which proved my mind was just looking for something different. It hasn't found anything concrete. Right now as would seem I like listening to HD tracks only purely because the numbers and bitrates are higher, so it's better. :p Generally consumes too much space though. In this situation the data on paper actually shows that the HD tracks are better. Of course they are. I like to pretend I'm taking advantage of the better quality on the few albums I have that are HD, even if I can't figure out how they're better with my ears.
Hmmm, interesting :)
What headphones are you talking about here?
With the greatest respect you may have answered your own point by stating you cannot hear the diffence between 16/44 and 24/192. This being the case you probably wouldn't be able to appreacite burn in as your ears may not have the capacity to hear these differences. not saying there is anything wrong with you or your hearing! I work with audio so I guess my hearing may be a little more attuned to certain aspects of audio (not saying im better here just maybe more attuned?)
A lot of the improvements in higher res audio / burn in is not always so much an audible phenominon like "oh thats sounds so harsh" [50 hours burn in later] "now there is no harshness" although sometimes it is exactly like that. [for me]
Anyway I notice improvments a lot more in how the audio effects me. Listening to Bob Marley mp3 and then 24/192 the difference is huge - it sounds/feels so much more like you are there expereincing it in person. The quality of all the different instruments and voice sounds a LOT closer to how it would if you were present in the studio - mp3's even cd's rarely if EVER have that effect on me
and this is the main point for me -
What bit depth & sample rate is live audio??
Im sure it is a lot higher than 24/192. Maybe the thing to remember is that the higher these rates go the closer they resemble the original signal and so if you have every heard or played live music that cannot be a bad thing?! and yes there will be some people who cannot hear an audible difference but of course there will be some with exceptional mental facilities of hearing that can and do experience the audibe and effect differences in hiRes audio + burned in headphones - Lucky them !!
@ Lilfurbal - i totally respect your views and experiences though. If you are happy with your equipment & phones then wonderful - anyway its not so much whether people are right or wrong in this matter as we all experience things differently