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Edited by Mython - 4/1/14 at 4:21pm
post #1322 of 13841
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

 

Here is proof that I have not forgotten what it's like to have to change media:

 

 

 

But it's still a PITA, and doesn't need to be, if only the DAP-makers stop inconveniencing their customers. Sony still haven't learned. Apple still haven't learned. iBasso still haven't learned. Fiio have, and Calyx have.

 

Anyway, I've made my point so I don't feel the need to drag this out any further :beerchug: 

the x5 doesnt internal memory though, to me that whats the second slot is for, wont comment on thw calyx though

post #1323 of 13841
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Originally Posted by headwhacker View Post

SQ guys, the single slot does make much of an issue, 128GB is already around. You get 2 and just swap. Can't imagine choosing the lesser SQ DAP because it has 2 slots over one. Priorities easily misplaced nowadays.

Look how beef up the DX90 is in the same package and still at bargain price. If all you can see is the single uSD slot, good luck to you.

 

*shrug* Not everyone has the same use case as you, so it is a little self-indulgent to make a statement about "misplaced priorities", dont you think?     Personally, I think that most people wouldnt be able to tell a difference between a DX50 & a DX90 in a double-blind test, but that doesnt mean I go around telling others that their priorities are misplaced.

 

I travel for 1-3 weeks and I dont want to ****** around with multiple SD cards, especially given how all these guys seem to have intermittent cataloging issues, but I would like to have my music with me.    If that doesnt make sense to you, so be it.    I still have a right to post my opinions.

post #1324 of 13841

Take a chill pill. Just ignore him. Hopefully I'll preorder it over here at Chile once mediaplayer brings it over here *o*

post #1325 of 13841
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post

But it's still a PITA, and doesn't need to be, if only the DAP-makers stop inconveniencing their customers. Sony still haven't learned. Apple still haven't learned. iBasso still haven't learned. Fiio have, and Calyx have.

 

Anyway, I've made my point so I don't feel the need to drag this out any further :beerchug: 

DAP's like these don't just magically assemble themselves by chance. It takes R&D, quite a bit of it actually. Most engineers don't like to work for free, not if they're any good. This means that R&D costs money and a lot of R&D costs a lot of money. So, for Ibasso or Fiio to invest in creating a new product, they need to make sure there's a reasonable chance that they can recoup their investment. They now have a choice of betting on either selling a few very expensive units or selling a lot of reasonably priced units. They chose the latter, so they will need to make some compromises. They now have a choice of compromising storage options or sound quality - They chose the former. Other manufacturers chose the latter (or raised the price)

 

This means that a lot of people will be able to enjoy great sound quality in a small package. Unfortunately, they won't be able to bring their entire hi-res collection at once, but whatever they chose to bring will sound awesome.


Edited by Sorensiim - 3/21/14 at 1:16pm
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DAP's like these don't just magically assemble themselves by chance. It takes R&D, quite a bit of it actually. Most engineers don't like to work for free, not if they're any good. This means that R&D costs money and a lot of R&D costs a lot of money. So, for Ibasso or Fiio to invest in creating a new product, they need to make sure there's a reasonable chance that they can recoup their investment. They now have a choice of betting on either selling a few very expensive units or selling a lot of reasonably priced units. They chose the latter, so they will need to make some compromises. They now have a choice of compromising storage options or sound quality - They chose the former. Other manufacturers chose the latter (or raised the price)

 

This means that a lot of people will be able to enjoy great sound quality in a small package. Unfortunately, they won't be able to bring their entire hi-res collection at once, but whatever they chose to bring will sound awesome.

 

You make a reasonable point.

post #1327 of 13841
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post


Here is proof that I have not forgotten what it's like to have to change media:





But it's still a PITA, and doesn't need to be, if only the DAP-makers stop inconveniencing their customers. Sony still haven't learned. Apple still haven't learned. iBasso still haven't learned. Fiio have, and Calyx have.

Anyway, I've made my point so I don't feel the need to drag this out any further beerchug.gif  

Well then it is lucky for you that nobody is going to force you to buy a DX90 so why don't you just leave this thread and stay in a Fiio or Calyx thread as you will be much happier there
post #1328 of 13841

The iBasso DAPs as they stand are already very attractive to me, but a full size SD/2nd micro SD would add to their appeal (to me at least), significantly.

 

I've relied on an ageing Cowon D2 (still functioning perfectly BTW) for portable use for millennia now, and even my Sansa Fuze has seen almost no use despite being available throughout the same ....aeons.

So although PROPER bass and authority has been a little elusive, I've not seen/heard of any player attractive enough (overall, obv') to tempt me to invest until the recent emergence of the FiiO and iBasso players.

 

I thought I was going to have to decide between the Dx50 and 90 ( OK maybe I was also considering the Fiio E18 for it's ability to make the most of Spotify ), but this new Cowon has definitely put the cat among the pigeons.

 

As long as the amp section and OS are up to the task of driving IEM's/CIEM's, its form factor and storage definitely better the FiiO and even the iBasso DAPs ( to me ).

On the subject of storage, I'd just like to highlight the fact that even my very very old D2 takes a full size SD card, surely capacities should have progressed further than ( and I'm being generous here) 128GB being the norm for DAP's?

 

I too demand MOAR!

post #1329 of 13841

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Edited by Mython - 4/1/14 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by nc8000 View Post

!----------- why don't you just leave this thread------------!

Maybe he doesn't feel the need, being an adult and all.

I admit that I'm assuming he's an adult by the nature of his posts here, YMMV

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Thread Starter 

I hope we can all have meaningful discourse, even with totally opposite viewpoints. We should be able to dialogue about these subjects in a hopefully constructive manner and enjoy the music. . 

post #1332 of 13841
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Maybe he doesn't feel the need, being an adult and all.
I admit that I'm assuming he's an adult by the nature of his posts here, YMMV

Indeed. Statements like inconveniencing their customers don't strike me as very adult. I doubt any manufacturer consider that they are inconviniencing their customers with their products. Also the attitude that because a company don't do as he feel they should means "That they haven't learned" strikes me as very childish
Edited by nc8000 - 3/21/14 at 2:17pm
post #1333 of 13841
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Originally Posted by vkalia View Post
 

 

*shrug* Not everyone has the same use case as you, so it is a little self-indulgent to make a statement about "misplaced priorities", dont you think?     Personally, I think that most people wouldnt be able to tell a difference between a DX50 & a DX90 in a double-blind test, but that doesnt mean I go around telling others that their priorities are misplaced.

 

I travel for 1-3 weeks and I dont want to ****** around with multiple SD cards, especially given how all these guys seem to have intermittent cataloging issues, but I would like to have my music with me.    If that doesnt make sense to you, so be it.    I still have a right to post my opinions.

 

So you are telling me you can say your opinion and I do not? That is why I stated my use case. That is why DX90 exist. So does other DAPs (that's choice). If it's not for you, then it's not for you. Yeah it does not make sense to me. Whether you agree or not are or not it does not matter to me. As I mentioned before storage (or lack of) is an inconvenience that has a remedy (except if you got a Sony or Apple). Hardware design affecting SQ is not as easy to work around with later on, especially in the same package as DX90. 

 

Did I say anywhere you can't disagree with what I say around here?


Edited by headwhacker - 3/21/14 at 3:03pm
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I prefer a back cover to compensate a bigger battery so I can have a longer battery life over another micro SD slot. However, nothing is perfect even the most expensive products have their flaws. I came to accept the flaws because ultimately sound quality should be the only priority.

post #1335 of 13841

You're right jamato, my inner snark got the better of me there.

I should  resist those urges, or so I'm told.

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