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post #616 of 1640
^^Bass is still better than ur q40. Th600 bass is unique
post #617 of 1640
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^^Bass is still better than ur q40. Th600 bass is unique


I don't doubt that, I think the Fostex as well as Signature DJs would definitely bring a noteworthy improvement in the bass departments but the rest of the sound may not fit perfectly. I'm still more interested in the Pandoras but I don't like buying headphones of this priceclass without demoing first so that's my prob. :p

post #618 of 1640
Too bad you live in Europe. I wanted to send them to u specifically for a listen but they are gone now.
post #619 of 1640
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Planar magnetics man, planar magnetics... that's all I have to say
Maybe not the Audeze/Oppo range, but HiFiMan should be up your alley (especially the new HE-560 from what I've read)
I agree with Denon and Fostex being too thin too

 

Isn't the 560 like... within $100 of the LCD2?

 

And I must be weird in that I'm not terribly in love with planars. I enjoyed the HD800 significantly more than the LCD2 and HE-6. 

post #620 of 1640
He6= fav hp I have heard todate
Edited by grizzlybeast - 6/11/14 at 4:08pm
post #621 of 1640
the strength of VI is the ability to generate a v pleasing euphonic (high end?) sound out of simple handfones, sansas, ipods, ipads,lappies. For some, this is a great way $$savour totl sound:)
post #622 of 1640
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I don't doubt that, I think the Fostex as well as Signature DJs would definitely bring a noteworthy improvement in the bass departments but the rest of the sound may not fit perfectly. I'm still more interested in the Pandoras but I don't like buying headphones of this priceclass without demoing first so that's my prob. tongue.gif

What was the last headphone you bought since your Q40?
post #623 of 1640

Has anyone found a decent aftermarket cable that works on these? The way the inputs "lock" in has me a bit concerned, but at the same time I'd really, really hate for a cable to go and I'm dead in the water. 

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Don't take it personnally but statements like that are dangerous. Use with great care.

 

 

 

.jp seems to have the lowest new price world wide. USA price is around an extra $115 which is still whoppingly good compared to European madness.

 

I'm always happy to find alternatives, but in my searches I've come up short. I need to get my hands on the Fostex TH600/900 or the old Denon X000 line, but I'll say that I've tried my damndest to find the ultimate headphone around $1000 and landed on the PH6 happily. I've yet to hear anyone say any of those are superior to the PH6 but I do want to hear them myself.

 

In fairness, it's not easy to find closed-back headphones up in that realm, so that might be part of it, but these absolutely tapdanced on the metaphorical graves of the LCD2/HE6/HD800/D7100 (admittedly mostly open-back), which are the ones I've managed to get around my head.

 

Cool to see that you've actually done a lot more listening with other headphones. My point is that what you said in that one sentence is so easy to misinterpret. It's all opinion.

 

 

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And I must be weird in that I'm not terribly in love with planars. I enjoyed the HD800 significantly more than the LCD2 and HE-6. 

 

You're not alone. I've had the LCD2 for a short time with (in all honesty) a non too powerful amp and shortly after a HE-4 which was plenty juiced. My high expectations were not met at all. Very underwhelmed with both and preferred a vintage, fraction of the cost Sennheiser HD540 that I bought at the same time by miles. I won't rule planar out but definitely hesitant to look at those type of phones anytime soon.

post #625 of 1640
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Cool to see that you've actually done a lot more listening with other headphones. My point is that what you said in that one sentence is so easy to misinterpret. It's all opinion.

 

You're not alone. I've had the LCD2 for a short time with (in all honesty) a non too powerful amp and shortly after a HE-4 which was plenty juiced. My high expectations were not met at all. Very underwhelmed with both and preferred a vintage, fraction of the cost Sennheiser HD540 that I bought at the same time by miles. I won't rule planar out but definitely hesitant to look at those type of phones anytime soon.

 

Understood. I mean yeah everything's opinion, but man I seriously cannot think what headphones trump the PH6 for under $1000, or even a little above. And I'm more than happy to learn, I'd love to try a pair of whatever they might be!

 

And yeah, planars are sooooo highly renowned, the proponents of them explain how the driver is just mechanically superior to a dynamic driver because of x, y, and z, but of the several pairs I tried I was severely underwhelmed. Once I tried a few times, mulled it over and came back, I started to hear the charms of them, but what I absolutely did not hear was this monumental leap upward. I would absolutely, without hesitation, proclaim the HD800 better than the LCD2/HE500/HE6. Haven't tried the HE560 or the Oppo PM1, nor Audeze's much higher end stuff, but I'm not really frothing at the mouth to.

post #626 of 1640

The power of the PH6: http://www.head-fi.org/t/722452/final-audio-design-fad-pandora-vi-brand-new-and-unopen

 

Guy buys the PH6 on a whim but doesn't open the box, regrets buying them (due to the high price) and wants to recoup the money. As soon as he opens the box and listens, closes the ad.


Edited by SomeGuyDude - 6/12/14 at 11:03pm
post #627 of 1640
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Has anyone found a decent aftermarket cable that works on these? The way the inputs "lock" in has me a bit concerned, but at the same time I'd really, really hate for a cable to go and I'm dead in the water. 

 

Looks to be a one of a kind connection type. Why are you looking for another one?

 

 

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I mean yeah everything's opinion,

 

You're absolutely right. For my silly me there can't be enough mention of YMMV's, IMO's, AFAIK's you know? Just that little modesty I'm missing sometimes on Head-Fi. Much more than sometimes actually.

 

 

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And yeah, planars are sooooo highly renowned, the proponents of them explain how the driver is just mechanically superior to a dynamic driver because of x, y, and z, but of the several pairs I tried I was severely underwhelmed. Once I tried a few times, mulled it over and came back, I started to hear the charms of them, but what I absolutely did not hear was this monumental leap upward. I would absolutely, without hesitation, proclaim the HD800 better than the LCD2/HE500/HE6. Haven't tried the HE560 or the Oppo PM1, nor Audeze's much higher end stuff, but I'm not really frothing at the mouth to.

 

Interesting. I asked myself at that time if there's something about planars so different in the way they bring about sound that maybe I just don't get it. Spacy as it may sound, with the planars it was kind of like searching for feeling the music but I couldn't connect with it. Couldn't grab it. When I put back on any dynamic can I was back at listening to music at once. Funny stuff.

post #628 of 1640
Very interesting... It just goes to show that hype, fads and trends are truly powerful forces...
Edited by rocksteady65 - 6/13/14 at 1:35am
post #629 of 1640
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Very interesting... It just goes to show that hype, fads and trends are truly powerful forces...

Or you know... people having different opinions
Orthos have lived up to the hype for me
Tried 3 so far, all of my fav headphones (Mad Dogs, HE-500 and demo'ed the Abyss)

post #630 of 1640
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Or you know... people having different opinions

Orthos have lived up to the hype for me

Tried 3 so far, all of my fav headphones (Mad Dogs, HE-500 and demo'ed the Abyss)

I suppose there is no accounting for taste....
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