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post #541 of 1649

It's actually funny. I would have called myself a basshead before these. Now when I listen to my Atrios MG7 (which I still rank as the best bass headphones) I find myself being a little turned off by the low end of it. I still need my big, beefy bass to enjoy the music, but if it comes at the expense of the rest I just don't enjoy it any more. 

 

Not that I'm in any danger of drifting over toward the treble cannons, mind you. Just that there was a time when the more the bass pounded my head, the happier I was. Now, unless I'm specifically listening to bassy rap, I just don't like it. 


Edited by SomeGuyDude - 5/31/14 at 9:08pm
post #542 of 1649
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DX1000 and DX2000 are too bass heavy. They are not in the same league as PH6 in terms of clarity and details.
Thanks, I'm glad... ordering from Japan sounds like a pain.
post #543 of 1649
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Thanks, I'm glad... ordering from Japan sounds like a pain.

 

Plus I think saving $400 would be pretty nice. 

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Plus I think saving $400 would be pretty nice. 
Actually, on Amazon.com they're only $800 + ~$30 shipping imported from Japan. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B000A7IAY6/ref=mw_dp_olp?qid=1401598176&sr=8-1
post #545 of 1649

Wow, these headphones offer clarity! Coming from the TH-600 the differences are not even subtle. Only now it's U-shaped nature becomes apparent to me. Not sure if I can handle all that (mids) truth of the Pandora to be honest but it's way better balanced throughout the spectrum. On the downside, pretty darn far from comfortable. It's only minutes before the top and back of my ears alert me. They really need to take it back to the lab to make it lighter, a stiffer sliding mechanism and the majorly flawed driver grills.. what!? Did they run out of beta testers or what? :normal_smile : 


Edited by moriez - 6/1/14 at 2:23am
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All right, thanks. It'll do, I care about sound quality much more than isolation wink.gif.

Sorry for the late reply but yes the isolation is average.

I've used these headphones on the bus once. I can hear the loud motor slightly but everything else is gone.

No one can hear my music and it was probably at 65% loudness on my ipod classic 7g


Edited by Jooce - 6/1/14 at 10:16am
post #547 of 1649
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Wow, these headphones offer clarity! Coming from the TH-600 the differences are not even subtle. Only now it's U-shaped nature becomes apparent to me. Not sure if I can handle all that (mids) truth of the Pandora to be honest but it's way better balanced throughout the spectrum. On the downside, pretty darn far from comfortable. It's only minutes before the top and back of my ears alert me. They really need to take it back to the lab to make it lighter, a stiffer sliding mechanism and the majorly flawed driver grills.. what!? Did they run out of beta testers or what? :normal_smile : 

I agree with the impressions. The sad part is that even after emails they insist that they made an extremely comfortable headphone. They need to know that two things are unanimous for every single person that has had them:

 

great sound

bad comfort

 

I have yet to find a headphone that so many people are in agreement on.

post #548 of 1649
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I agree with the impressions. The sad part is that even after emails they insist that they made an extremely comfortable headphone. They need to know that two things are unanimous for every single person that has had them:

great sound
bad comfort

I have yet to find a headphone that so many people are in agreement on.


Well, I am the one decenter regarding comfort. I find them quite comfortable if you change the pads. So, okay, I do agree they can be made better with thicker pads. And the need to fix the slider, but I fixed that with cn11's rubber band trick. Those two things weren't enough, however, to consider sending them back. I love this headphone.
post #549 of 1649
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

I agree with the impressions. The sad part is that even after emails they insist that they made an extremely comfortable headphone. They need to know that two things are unanimous for every single person that has had them:

great sound
bad comfort

I have yet to find a headphone that so many people are in agreement on.


Well, I am the one decenter regarding comfort. I find them quite comfortable if you change the pads. So, okay, I do agree they can be made better with thicker pads. And the need to fix the slider, but I fixed that with cn11's rubber band trick. Those two things weren't enough, however, to consider sending them back. I love this headphone.

you just agreed with me lol. They are exceptional and worth keeping despite those and the clarity what that price should get you. Unfortunately it doesnt always end up that way.

post #550 of 1649
Pad update:

After emailing FAD and showing them the various pad complaints here. They responded by saying that they are indeed aware of the issue and that the pad choice was for sonic reasons. They also were extremely kind and told me they infact do have other pads that will soon be available for sale.

When I get the pair in I will take pictures and report back.
post #551 of 1649

^ Interesting.

 

I too emailed them asking for alternatives and was answered with that Pandora 4 pads are an option: ''They're a bit thicker, less soft and so would be a little more comfortable.'' Gee, I don't know. Hadn't I ordered 770 pads already I might have given it more thought.

post #552 of 1649
Well i hope that they dont send me iv pads. I will ask and report back.
Edited by grizzlybeast - 6/2/14 at 11:48pm
post #553 of 1649
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Pad update:

After emailing FAD and showing them the various pad complaints here. They responded by saying that they are indeed aware of the issue and that the pad choice was for sonic reasons. 


Like I guessed. :P I'm particularly picky about sonic changes myself with pad swaps. The sound signature of the default Q40 pads is the reason I keep using them even if they are very shallow. Sound quality > comfort for the true audiophile nerd. No pain, no gain. :p

In the FAD case they probably could make the pads like 2-3 mm thicker and slightly bit stiffer with very minimal sonical change. Already around 5 mm I'd expect the sound would start changing too much for my liking though.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 6/3/14 at 12:47am
post #554 of 1649

It's surprising for myself really what I'm about to say but switching between the TH600 and the Pandora makes the Fostex sound bloody uneven with some of the music I have been listening to. Shhh, don't tell on me but yeah.. sounds muddy, heavily tilted down and up frequency.

Another thing that nobody seems to have reported is hearing quite a bit of hiss when no music is playing no matter what input or volume I choose. Other headphones are dead quiet. Why?

post #555 of 1649
^what amp?
These things are dumb sensitive. 8 ohms
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