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Is Schiit Magni (amp) good enough for akg k701 Please HELP

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I am buying an amp for my Akg K701 headphones and i was looking at this amp (Schiit Magni) http://schiit.com/products/magni

Do you think it will be good enough to power them. I know that they require more expensive amps, but i need as cheap as possible amp. How good will they sound with this amp if we compare them with amps that are 300 dollars/euros?

 

I hope for some answers :)

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do you have a dac? how do you listen music (computer or ipod or something else)?

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I am listening with computer. I need them for music production.

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I found this thread which was started by you, http://www.head-fi.org/t/692979/amp-for-akg-k-701-headphones

 

Magni is good amp and it can drive K701. But you also need a dac (modi).

 

I think that you could go for E10, if you are on a very tight budget. It is better to go for a dac/amp to use in computer rather than using just amp alone. Dac/amp would improve the sound quality compared to onboard soundcard of computer.

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I'm very satisfied with Objective O2 for K702.

 

My computer-based friends go for better soundcards, such as Asus Xonar D1, instead of $100-200 DACs. But if you want a DAC, I like ODAC. I recommend the great O2+ODAC combo, if you don't care about portability.

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what is dac? Do I need it if i play music from computer?

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Dac = digital to analog converter. The music files (mp3 or flac) are stored as digital format (0s and 1s). If we need to listen music, the music file has to be converted from digital to analog signal. That is the duty of the DAC.

 

Most of computers have crappy soundcards. If DAC is used, the onboard soundcard can be bypassed. Fiio E10 has dac and amp. But magni is only an amp.

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So if i understand you if I have only magni it will work but not so good as if I would have dac and magni.

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But as I read sound card doesnt impact sound so much. It is only important when you record something. I might be wrong :)

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But as I read sound card doesnt impact sound so much. It is only important when you record something. I might be wrong :)

Nope, if you're getting your audio off the card then how could it not affect the quality of the sound? The digital data must be first converted to analog and then amplified for your headphones or at the very least there is a line out amp after the DAC. Any weaknesses in these will affect what you hear.

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But as I read sound card doesnt impact sound so much. It is only important when you record something. I might be wrong :)

 

No, it's for general playback. I'm not sure you can hear anything without one.


Edited by Claritas - 12/21/13 at 8:27pm
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Here is how your music set up on your computer is with just the Magni: music (MP3,FLAC,ALAC,ect) --> computer sound card --> Magni amp --> headphones. 

 

the sound cards in your computer is probably really bad so that will create a bottle neck in your audio set up since the poor quality sound card comes before the amp. 

 

if you get just the amp and not the dac you will be amplifying the poor quality signal produced by your computer sound card. 

 

getting a dac will remove this bottle neck in your system. 

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A soundcard is a DAC. It's your choice if you want an internal soundcard or an external DAC. Computer guys prefer soundcards because soundcards are much more versatile.

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So if i understand you if I have only magni it will work but not so good as if I would have dac and magni.


yes

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I just found this post on this forum. W hat do you think. Is it true?

 

 

 

 

Comments I made on another forum for a member asking about K701 pairing with Magni.
 
Sorry for the delay guys, had the in-laws over so it's been crazy.
 
Let me get this out there.  I don't have any high-tech gear to test amps and headphones.  I use my ears and experience. :music:
 
This is not a review, just impressions on how it pairs with the K701.  To my ears the Magni sounds good for a $99 amp.  It has good punchy bass and clean crisp highs.  The AKG K701 is not expensive in the world of hi-fi headphones.  It is perhaps one of the most revealing headphones on the market regardless of price.  It's revealing sound may not suit everyone and can be hard on the ears and difficult to pair with amps and sources.  This headphone is the "garbage in, garbage out" type.  With that said, it shows flaws on the Magni.  While the amp has good punchy bass and crisp highs, it has a bump in the 2.5khz area which make it hard for me to like.  The K701 brings that out front and center.  It sounds like the amp is shouting at you.  Another area is deficiency is refinement.  Everything sounds like it's coming at you all at once.  While this is common on budget amps, you only notice it when you compare the Magni to a higher priced amp like the Musical Fidelity M1 HPA.  Refinement is why Hi-Fi gear is so much money.  I know it is not a fair comparison.  The Magni is a $99 amp while the HPA is $799.  The Magni is not a bad amp, it's just a bad match for the K701. For those with this headphone I suggest to spend more money and buy a better amp so you can enjoy what the K701 can give you.  
 
If you are just seeking for a good kick in the pants for your less revealing budget headphones, the Magni is a good buy and should give you the boost you want.
 
note: my Magni has a volume control issue.  The left side cuts out when I wiggle the knob.  I'll send it back for a replacement.
 
BTW, the tube based X-Can V8 is a great match for the K701/K702.  That amp can be had for about $400 on the used market.  The stock tubes are better IMO than Gold Lions.
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