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Originally Posted by vkalia View Post

 

Please note I am not knocking the product and I am not saying that the people who have reviewed the X5 have been deliberately hiding facts.  I am just pointing out that the reviews have been tending more towards the optimistic side, which is to be expected given the nature of this world tour.

I guess you could expect that, maybe. I mean people are sent a product on a world tour and who wanta to rain on the parade or jeopardize (it would be in the back of their mind, human nature) the possibility of doing it again. Well I have a X5 that is not part of the world tour, no one gave it to me, and I would say, that besides some software issues, which are to be expected, and while I am not crazy about the buttons on the front and how they work, the sound is very, very good. So on the positives of the sound, IMO, people are being pretty honest. On other areas, we all have preferences and abilities so that, the use of the buttons for navigation, is a very individual thing and I would not question positive or negative remarks. On the sound, which, as long as I "can" navigate, is the most important feature to me and I see no misplaced comments on that, from what I have read. 

post #887 of 1895
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Originally Posted by hilosxdd View Post
 

Media library update stuck halfway while updating, has anyone encountered this ? :rolleyes:

 

 

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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
 

Ok I got it. Just put the card in and don't do a scan and go to the folder. Great. I have a card in slot 1 that isn't scanned and one in 2 that is. 

 

I can get it to scan the card in slot 1 but not slot 2. In fairness, Joe warned me that this still requires bug fixes which are pending.

 

More importantly, the file browsing works perfectly! That is my preferred method of choosing music anyway.

 

Joe, when I say perfectly - which is fair - I do still hope that you will give us that extra shortcut to return to the Now Playing screen like this mock-up. Why not be better than perfect?  ;-)

 

 

post #888 of 1895
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Originally Posted by vkalia View Post
 

 

I am sure it is a nice product and I'm considering getting one, mainly for the high storage capacity, if they can sort out the bugs.

 

BUT.... it is hardly a surprise that the reviews have been good and consistent.   Most of the people in the review loop are excited about the product and given the impact perceptions and expectations have on sound quality, this would have to be a very poorly-designed product to get bad reviews for sound quality - and that it isnt.

 

Ergonomics play a HUGE role - far more than the minor-to-the-point-of-insignificance differences between the various DAPs in the market today, IMO.    However, all the ergonomic issues seem to getting swept under "oh well, it will be fixed in a future firmware update".  Given that this is going to be a $400 product, is the second DAP in a company product line and the past experiences with the X3 and the DX50, it doesnt exactly inspire confidence that the product *STILL* cannot read the ID3 tags consistently, or that gapless playback still doesnt exist, etc. etc.      Personally, I dont care about what is GOING to happen - I care about what the product is like right now, and IMO, it is still a work-in-progress.

 

Please note I am not knocking the product and I am not saying that the people who have reviewed the X5 have been deliberately hiding facts.  I am just pointing out that the reviews have been tending more towards the optimistic side, which is to be expected given the nature of this world tour.

 

Gapless does exist and it works very well. It is about the same as the DX50 with current FW 1.2.8 which also works very well.

 

I listen to classic progrock concept albums all the time. If it didn't work, I would be the one to know and I would tell.

 

Yes, it can get get even more seamless to meet the iPod and Rockbox gold standards. Give it time. But I am not concerned one way or the other. It is no impediment to full enjoyment of said concept albums because... it works very well.

post #889 of 1895
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

 

Oh and finally:

 

  1. Folder browsing is excellent and works flawlessly.

 

Does folder browsing have correct album order when track titles don't have 01, 02 preceding the titles, like I saw in demo video clip?  I have tried to get confirmation of this before, that the ID tag for track number is used rather than track title.

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Andrew, the tracks are ordered according the physical track title, not the ID tags. For folder browsing, this is correct. A folder browser should be like Windows Explorer. You are looking at the actual files.

 

(The Rockbox file browser - still the gold standard in my view - does the same.)

post #891 of 1895
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

Andrew, the tracks are ordered according the physical track title, not the ID tags. For folder browsing, this is correct. A folder browser should be like Windows Explorer. You are looking at the actual files.

 

(The Rockbox file browser - still the gold standard in my view - does the same.)

 

Thanks Cooper. That makes sense replicating Explorer, but will be a problem for anyone who doesn't have actual file names preceded by a number, whether using Folder or Artist/Album browsing? It is actually like this for the x3?!!

 

Having got so used to seeing tracks via their metadata, I just checked my Windows folders and at least three quarters of my FLACS (mostly dbpower amp converts from my CDs) DO actually have numbered file names.

 

A Job then to convert others to match their meta-data, while impatiently waiting for either the X5 or ZX1 to hit the UK (officially).

post #892 of 1895
folder view wrks nice... sweet! I only browse by folder. Never liked figtin wid meta data so i irganize folders in stead. I still tag correctly

still excited to get this!
post #893 of 1895
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Originally Posted by AndrewH13 View Post
 

 

Thanks Cooper. That makes sense replicating Explorer, but will be a problem for anyone who doesn't have actual file names preceded by a number, whether using Folder or Artist/Album browsing? It is actually like this for the x3?!!

 

Having got so used to seeing tracks via their metadata, I just checked my Windows folders and at least three quarters of my FLACS (mostly dbpower amp converts from my CDs) DO actually have numbered file names.

 

A Job then to convert others to match their meta-data, while impatiently waiting for either the X5 or ZX1 to hit the UK (officially).

 

For sure, cleaning up your file names is the solution. Do it once and you will be good forever.

 

File browser and database browser are two very different concepts. File browser is a window onto your physical files so file naming is very important.

 

Frankly the X5 database browser is immature at this point. It doesn't really look at the tags except at the very top level. As a result only browse by album works at all properly. Everything else is a mess of physical file names in an unusable order. So I cannot comment on how the database will function when they fully develop it. I know that they are working on that. I expect that the firmware will be ready for the international release.

post #894 of 1895
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

 

For sure, cleaning up your file names is the solution. Do it once and you will be good forever.

 

File browser and database browser are two very different concepts. File browser is a window onto your physical files so file naming is very important.

 

Frankly the X5 database browser is immature at this point. It doesn't really look at the tags except at the very top level. As a result only browse by album works at all properly. Everything else is a mess of physical file names in an unusable order. So I cannot comment on how the database will function when they fully develop it. I know that they are working on that. I expect that the firmware will be ready for the international release.

 

Agree.  The thing is - the X5 reads all the tag data correctly - it just doesn't display it in the preferred order.  Once they add hierarchy - there should be no issues.  It's a simple matter of:

Genre > Artist > Album > Title

 

I'd hope it would be a relatively simple fix .....

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I can get it to scan the card in slot 1 but not slot 2. In fairness, Joe warned me that this still requires bug fixes which are pending.

More importantly, the file browsing works perfectly! That is my preferred method of choosing music anyway.

Joe, when I say perfectly - which is fair - I do still hope that you will give us that extra shortcut to return to the Now Playing screen like this mock-up. Why not be better than perfect?  ;-)




This is a good chance for me to plug the Bugzilla site I've got running biggrin.gif
https://app.devzing.com/FiiO/bugzilla/


Create an account and add a "bug" for the X5 stating your preferred enhancement, vote for it, rally other X5 users to vote for it, tell other X5 users about the bugzilla site and tell them to write and vote for their own suggestions smily_headphones1.gif
post #896 of 1895

Joe, I shall do this soon.  :-)

post #897 of 1895

The x5 is arriving today!  muahahaha.  Let's see what this baby can do.

post #898 of 1895
Just dont drop it >smily_headphones1.gif
post #899 of 1895

The (undropped) USA Tour X5 is on its way to the next victim...err...reviewer!  I hope he enjoys it as much as I did!  Now it's off to finish the review...hope to post it soon.

 

Cheers!:beerchug:

-HK sends

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