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post #466 of 1316

You are in for a treat.

post #467 of 1316

I've been burning in The Answer for the past two days, and the difference it's made has already been huge. At first I was getting pretty unsure about my purchase since the highs were peaky no matter what tips I used and mid bass came off a bit strong, even with the wide bore tips. Mids were slightly recessed and I had to stop listening to them at times or change the album I was listening to because it made me so frustrated. Soundstage also didn't seem very wide and imaging was just okay. But wow, two days really turned them into something incredible. The peakiness of the treble has settled to the point where I no longer feel bothered, and mid bass has calmed down to just the right amount, at least with the wide bore tips. Mids have come forward, soundstage has really opened up, and imaging is excellent now. If these continue to get better with more burn-in, I don't even know what I'm gonna do with myself!

 

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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

Looking ah the F/S forum, looks like folks are hopping on the Truth! Must say I'm curious myself. But I kinda like love the The Answer the way it is!

 

Yeah I feel the same way! I think the finish of The Answer is way sexier and I don't think I would want it to be anymore revealing than it already is. Btw, are you still in possession of the Heaven VI? I'm just curious about your thoughts between the two.

post #468 of 1316
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Originally Posted by akarise View Post
 

 

Yeah I feel the same way! I think the finish of The Answer is way sexier and I don't think I would want it to be anymore revealing than it already is. Btw, are you still in possession of the Heaven VI? I'm just curious about your thoughts between the two.

 

Dude, don't sell your Heaven V. You will regret it. They do things no other earphone can do. They may not be the "best" but they are certainly magical in their own right, and sound unlike anything else out there. You will miss it. 

 

The Answer has me listening to the HVI again. The HV is very similar. Before I got to the second part of your post, I was going to say something like, the HVI might be your dream earphone. Well you basically already have it, and you love them, as you should, as any FAD product would be loved. You know the difference, a smooth high end, tight and textured bass, and melt in your ears mids without being colored. Of all the stuff I own, and I go through equipment like a tornado going through a trailer park, I never consider selling any FAD device. I almost did once, thought I might regret it, and pulled the plug. You can get more refined. You can get technically better, but you can't get that magic you love, anywhere else. It's a matter of the heart, not the head. As is music. 

 

That being said, if you really want to sell your HV, I'll pick them up from you right now : )

post #469 of 1316
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

 

Dude, don't sell your Heaven V. You will regret it. They do things no other earphone can do. They may not be the "best" but they are certainly magical in their own right, and sound unlike anything else out there. You will miss it. 

 

The Answer has me listening to the HVI again. The HV is very similar. Before I got to the second part of your post, I was going to say something like, the HVI might be your dream earphone. Well you basically already have it, and you love them, as you should, as any FAD product would be loved. You know the difference, a smooth high end, tight and textured bass, and melt in your ears mids without being colored. Of all the stuff I own, and I go through equipment like a tornado going through a trailer park, I never consider selling any FAD device. I almost did once, thought I might regret it, and pulled the plug. You can get more refined. You can get technically better, but you can't get that magic you love, anywhere else. It's a matter of the heart, not the head. As is music. 

 

That being said, if you really want to sell your HV, I'll pick them up from you right now : )

 

Oh man, I wasn't expecting and wasn't prepared for this response. Everyone else in this thread has been saying the DITA is way better than the Heaven V/VI. You're the first person to tell me to hold on to the Heaven V. Now I'm super conflicted because I understand what you mean when you say it's a matter of the heart. The Heaven V was my first love, if that was possible for a pair of IEMs. The DITA is quickly becoming my second love, but like they say, you never forget your first love. Argh, I'm going to need more time with the DITA so I can make sure the new toy syndrome doesn't factor into my decision.

 

Haha, don't you already have a pair of the Heaven V?? I actually have a potential buyer who is waiting for funds. I'm hoping I'll be able to make my final decision before he gets those funds.

 

EDIT: Why has The Answer got you listening to the Heaven VI again?


Edited by akarise - 5/20/14 at 5:42pm
post #470 of 1316
LOL - course it'd be SF who talks you out of it wink.gif

He isn't wrong about that actually. I often feel like FAD is the only company trying to do something wholly different from the rest of the guys in the audio biz. You either get it or you don't. And if you do, there really isn't anything else out there that seems to replicate that "magic" that they specialize in. I had a very similar experience to you and SF in the form of the PF IX. I couldn't actually use the damn thing since the fit was abysmal for my ears, but I still managed to hang onto it for the better part of 7 months or so just cause I didn't want to part with its sound sig. If you love the V, and have the financial means to keep it, it'd be worth hanging onto IMO
post #471 of 1316

idsynch, ; )

 

 

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Originally Posted by akarise View Post
 

 

Oh man, I wasn't expecting and wasn't prepared for this response. Everyone else in this thread has been saying the DITA is way better than the Heaven V/VI. You're the first person to tell me to hold on to the Heaven V. Now I'm super conflicted because I understand what you mean when you say it's a matter of the heart. The Heaven V was my first love, if that was possible for a pair of IEMs. The DITA is quickly becoming my second love, but like they say, you never forget your first love. Argh, I'm going to need more time with the DITA so I can make sure the new toy syndrome doesn't factor into my decision.

 

Haha, don't you already have a pair of the Heaven V?? I actually have a potential buyer who is waiting for funds. I'm hoping I'll be able to make my final decision before he gets those funds.

 

EDIT: Why has The Answer got you listening to the Heaven VI again?

 

Oh no... it's one or the other? Dude you can't do that to yourself. FAD gear is in a category by itself, it never gets considered to be replaced, at any level. I would sell my ... every IEM I have (except the HVI, PFIX, and FI-BA-SS) before I sold my HV : )

 

Is the DITA "better?" For SURE. Is it as magical? I don't know man, The Answer is pretty awesome, and a great bargain, and you should definitely keep it, but never at the expense of a FAD. FAD is special. As great as The Answer is, you can get this sound with other devices. You can't replicate FAD. And you are one of the lucky, lucky people that understands and gets FAD. Many cannot. They see a horribly measuring expensive pile of metal. 

 

Yes, I have a pair of HV. I could go for another. They are like tasty strips of bacon, you can never have enough. I have been really impressed by headphones. Wowed, amazed. But I have never loved like I've loved a FAD device. If I catastrophically lost everything and could not regain it, I would be way more upset about the PFIX being gone than the Abyss. 

 

There is one member around these parts that has Final Audio tattooed on her ; ) I understand that. FAD taught me the most invaluable lesson in my audiophile journey. It is not about what is better, or what measures best, it's what moves you most, pulls at the heart strings. After all, the whole reason we are here is music, and music is emotion. 

post #472 of 1316

I just did a quick comparison listening to some high bitrate Norah Jones. You pop the answer back in, and it sounds all good and audiophily and shiny and technical. You miss the humanity. I pop in the HV, and I feel like I am transported to a small live outdoor show, in the middle of the summer with a cold beer in hand. It sounds way more technically inaccurate by audiophile standards, but it sounds much more like something you would hear at a live show, and the HV takes you there, makes you feel it. 

 

Dude, you're making me blush in front of my HV ; )

 

I got out the old HV because the DITA reminded me of the natural clarity in vocals, but when you do a straight A/B, they are not similar. 

post #473 of 1316
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Originally Posted by Spamateur View Post
 

Truth Edition just arrived today. I was so excited, I actually drove home from my office and back to grab them (30 mile round trip) for enjoyment during the workday.

 

Man, this a big box. I thought the Shure SE846 packaging was enormous, but this takes it to another level. Thanks to Dita for making sure I didn't have any issues with customs, btw.

 

On plugging them into my ZX1, my first impression is how crisp everything is. It's definitely "bright" (using the size L medium bore tips) but it's not harsh to me. It's shocking how good the bass and mids are despite the crisp quality of the treble. Clarity so far is fantastic. Soundstage is large and airy for an IEM, especially compared to the last dynamic IEM I owned (JVC FX850). It's nice to be impressed with an IEM right out of the box after being disappointed by the Roxannes. Kudos to Dita. Can't wait for the experience of burning these babies in more.

 

I'm lucky to have a loaner from the Dita folks after the Fujiya event shy of 2 weeks back. I actually didn't pop the box open until Monday and immediately put them for burn in rather than a listen ('cos I managed to hear well bedded ones in at the Fujiya show). Personally I find the synergy between the ZX1 & the Dita's may not be so appropriate and this isn't the fault of the Dita's. I've loved & praised the ZX1 for months but that's because I use it almost exclusively with the FitEar MH335DWs and TG!334. Recently I've had a few other demo earphones such as the Tralucent Ref1 in addition to the Ditas and the ZX1 can make them sound bright and my finger is pointing towards the ZX1 being the culprit. That's not to say the ZX1 is a bad player 'cos it synergises very well with warm-styled signatured earphones. However earphones with more treble extension than the 334/335, I don't know if the ZX1 is so suitable - to my ears and expectations at least.

post #474 of 1316
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

 

I'm lucky to have a loaner from the Dita folks after the Fujiya event shy of 2 weeks back. I actually didn't pop the box open until Monday and immediately put them for burn in rather than a listen ('cos I managed to hear well bedded ones in at the Fujiya show). Personally I find the synergy between the ZX1 & the Dita's may not be so appropriate and this isn't the fault of the Dita's. I've loved & praised the ZX1 for months but that's because I use it almost exclusively with the FitEar MH335DWs and TG!334. Recently I've had a few other demo earphones such as the Tralucent Ref1 in addition to the Ditas and the ZX1 can make them sound bright and my finger is pointing towards the ZX1 being the culprit. That's not to say the ZX1 is a bad player 'cos it synergises very well with warm-styled signatured earphones. However earphones with more treble extension than the 334/335, I don't know if the ZX1 is so suitable - to my ears and expectations at least.

 

I'm starting to agree. Burning in today (about 8 hours so far) has helped significantly already, but I've already started looking for a used AK120. Would a RWAK100 be a good pairing? I've heard it doesn't quite measure up to the ZX1. 

 

I gotta say I've already had thoughts of selling my SE846. Great phones but the Ditas so far feel much more like what I'm looking for out of an IEM. Might sell them along with the ZX1 to pick up an AK DAP.

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Originally Posted by Spamateur View Post
 

 

I'm starting to agree. Burning in today (about 8 hours so far) has helped significantly already, but I've already started looking for a used AK120. Would a RWAK100 be a good pairing? I've heard it doesn't quite measure up to the ZX1. 

 

I gotta say I've already had thoughts of selling my SE846. Great phones but the Ditas so far feel much more like what I'm looking for out of an IEM. Might sell them along with the ZX1 to pick up an AK DAP.

 

I had the RWAK100 & AK120 and preferred the AK120 & sold the RWAK100. And briefly I had the AK120 & ZX1 side-by-side and preferred the ZX1 and sold the AK120. I never had the RWAK100 next to the ZX1 but by inference, I think I would have preferred the ZX1 over the RWAK100 - all this however with the FitEar. I tried the AK240 with the Ditas in the show and liked that combo but AK240 is quite pricey.

 

If you can wait, maybe see how the AK100 II and AK120 II turn out. Alternatively look into the X5 and DX90.

post #476 of 1316
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post
 

I just did a quick comparison listening to some high bitrate Norah Jones. You pop the answer back in, and it sounds all good and audiophily and shiny and technical. You miss the humanity. I pop in the HV, and I feel like I am transported to a small live outdoor show, in the middle of the summer with a cold beer in hand. It sounds way more technically inaccurate by audiophile standards, but it sounds much more like something you would hear at a live show, and the HV takes you there, makes you feel it. 

 

Dude, you're making me blush in front of my HV ; )

 

I got out the old HV because the DITA reminded me of the natural clarity in vocals, but when you do a straight A/B, they are not similar. 

 

 

SF can describe (very well) both the FAD house sound and the Dita sound quite accurately. I'll give him a high five and a +1, *slap*!

post #477 of 1316
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

LOL - course it'd be SF who talks you out of it wink.gif

He isn't wrong about that actually. I often feel like FAD is the only company trying to do something wholly different from the rest of the guys in the audio biz. You either get it or you don't. And if you do, there really isn't anything else out there that seems to replicate that "magic" that they specialize in. I had a very similar experience to you and SF in the form of the PF IX. I couldn't actually use the damn thing since the fit was abysmal for my ears, but I still managed to hang onto it for the better part of 7 months or so just cause I didn't want to part with its sound sig. If you love the V, and have the financial means to keep it, it'd be worth hanging onto IMO

 

Not you too Idsynch! My will to sell the Heaven V is slowly crumbling into nothing...

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post
 

 

Oh no... it's one or the other? Dude you can't do that to yourself. FAD gear is in a category by itself, it never gets considered to be replaced, at any level. I would sell my ... every IEM I have (except the HVI, PFIX, and FI-BA-SS) before I sold my HV : )

 

Is the DITA "better?" For SURE. Is it as magical? I don't know man, The Answer is pretty awesome, and a great bargain, and you should definitely keep it, but never at the expense of a FAD. FAD is special. As great as The Answer is, you can get this sound with other devices. You can't replicate FAD. And you are one of the lucky, lucky people that understands and gets FAD. Many cannot. They see a horribly measuring expensive pile of metal. 

 

Yes, I have a pair of HV. I could go for another. They are like tasty strips of bacon, you can never have enough. I have been really impressed by headphones. Wowed, amazed. But I have never loved like I've loved a FAD device. If I catastrophically lost everything and could not regain it, I would be way more upset about the PFIX being gone than the Abyss. 

 

There is one member around these parts that has Final Audio tattooed on her ; ) I understand that. FAD taught me the most invaluable lesson in my audiophile journey. It is not about what is better, or what measures best, it's what moves you most, pulls at the heart strings. After all, the whole reason we are here is music, and music is emotion.

 

I just did a quick comparison listening to some high bitrate Norah Jones. You pop the answer back in, and it sounds all good and audiophily and shiny and technical. You miss the humanity. I pop in the HV, and I feel like I am transported to a small live outdoor show, in the middle of the summer with a cold beer in hand. It sounds way more technically inaccurate by audiophile standards, but it sounds much more like something you would hear at a live show, and the HV takes you there, makes you feel it. 

 

Dude, you're making me blush in front of my HV ; )

 

I got out the old HV because the DITA reminded me of the natural clarity in vocals, but when you do a straight A/B, they are not similar.

 

Well I could afford to keep both... My logic is that I have only 2 ears so I don't really need more than one pair of IEMs as long I've found my favorite one. I was actually gonna use the funds I get from selling it for upgrading the tube on my Project Ember but after everything you've said, it almost seems like a horrific thing to do haha. The magic of the Heaven V's mids is one thing I'm sure I'll miss if I part with them. I've never heard anything like them, not even from FAD's own Pandora Hope VI. I still get chills from them, just so beautiful. Wow, you would miss the PF IX more than the Abyss?? I seriously need to get around to trying one of the PFs sometime, I might just go broke afterwards though...

 

I feel like I know who you're referring to haha. Yeah emotion in music is everything. I feel so fortunate that I wandered onto the FAD thread so many months ago, really opened my eyes to the joy of being an audiophile. I'm actually listening to hi-res Norah Jones at this moment too and I agree with you. It makes sense too since they wanted it to emulate a live concert hall. LOL the FAD love affair is real ;)

 

Yeah both The Answer and the Heaven V have that natural clarity when it comes to vocals but the difference is noticeable when I switch between them. I really might keep both, they seem to complement each other quite well actually.

post #478 of 1316
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Originally Posted by akarise View Post
 

 

Not you too Idsynch! My will to sell the Heaven V is slowly crumbling into nothing...

 

 

Well I could afford to keep both... My logic is that I have only 2 ears so I don't really need more than one pair of IEMs as long I've found my favorite one. I was actually gonna use the funds I get from selling it for upgrading the tube on my Project Ember but after everything you've said, it almost seems like a horrific thing to do haha. The magic of the Heaven V's mids is one thing I'm sure I'll miss if I part with them. I've never heard anything like them, not even from FAD's own Pandora Hope VI. I still get chills from them, just so beautiful. Wow, you would miss the PF IX more than the Abyss?? I seriously need to get around to trying one of the PFs sometime, I might just go broke afterwards though...

 

I feel like I know who you're referring to haha. Yeah emotion in music is everything. I feel so fortunate that I wandered onto the FAD thread so many months ago, really opened my eyes to the joy of being an audiophile. I'm actually listening to hi-res Norah Jones at this moment too and I agree with you. It makes sense too since they wanted it to emulate a live concert hall. LOL the FAD love affair is real ;)

 

Yeah both The Answer and the Heaven V have that natural clarity when it comes to vocals but the difference is noticeable when I switch between them. I really might keep both, they seem to complement each other quite well actually.

 

Maybe I should just buy your FAD since you beat me to the punch!

post #479 of 1316
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Originally Posted by caracara08 View Post
 

 

Maybe I should just buy your FAD since you beat me to the punch!

 

Thanks to SoundFreaq and Idsynch, it might be too late for that my friend! :tongue_smile:

post #480 of 1316
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Originally Posted by akarise View Post
 

 

Thanks to SoundFreaq and Idsynch, it might be too late for that my friend! :tongue_smile:

 

Haha good! Enjoy both!  I have only heard good things about the FAD.

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