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post #136 of 1316
a) look forward to ed2 then biggrin.gif?

b) re removable cable - don't forget being able to roll cables for ergonomics. (for say mmcx plugs)
:P
Edited by svyr - 4/19/14 at 6:59pm
post #137 of 1316

The only people who can truly have the final say is the designer themselves, I hope they get to be more active in the future if time permits them. 

post #138 of 1316
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I had a bit of trouble getting a seal on many of the included tips (need the largest size for this nozzle length, and it seemed like some largest tips weren't consistently large for all core sizes. - e.g. smaller for the blue core one)
speaking of .

three things I couldn't get used to were: (four if you count wanting to get more largest tips than included biggrin.gif)
a) not a big fan of Fat Cable for portable use for the Normal edition of the Answer. It affected being able to keep the seal, being able to wear it over the ear (it just won't stay in place biggrin.gif) . I did find a shirt clip to fit it, but for brisk walking it's still not perfect. (best for critical listening :| ? )
b) non removal cable (and yes it's really sturdy, but no probably not sturdy enough if your friends' cat eats it or if you catch a really sharp corner. accidents do happen) . Would also let us roll the cable for ergonomics if it had a standard plug (e.g. MMCX)
c) prominent mid-bass. <- I think a couple of people pointed that out. Comparing to H300 - H300 feels like it lacks a bit of mid-bass impact at times, and the Answer feels like it can use a bit of a sub-bass boost. could say it's a design or user preference for a more natural sound but overall I'd probably take H300 for the bass.

 

Yep, I found the tips weren't of consistent sizes. But I managed to get a great seal with the large greys. :) 

 

I'm also finding the cable less of a problem than I thought it would be as it's pretty flexible (despite it's thickness) and doesn't seem to have a memory effect despite being coiled for storage. 

 

Kinda wish it was removable too, but the sound is so good I can live with that! Plus there might be problems with removable cables too, like the MMCX (or perhaps driver) issues with the earlier batches of se846s and even the new Westone series. 

 

 I'm actually finding the mids quite prominent, albeit less so than the 846. In any case, if possible, people looking for a nice dynamic sound should give these an audition!

post #139 of 1316

Sadly EX-1000 can not longer compete with dita, but I cannot blame it as after all it is a really old one. 

 

I will do a more intense listening against IE-800, I tend to prefer dita more but certain things IE-800 does that I need to listen for more carefully on dita. At very least they are both on the same level but both of them do things quiet differently, I guess at the end of the day it comes down to the the tuning one prefers.

post #140 of 1316
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Sadly EX-1000 can not longer compete with dita, but I cannot blame it as after all it is a really old one. 

 

I will do a more intense listening against IE-800, I tend to prefer dita more but certain things IE-800 does that I need to listen for more carefully on dita. At very least they are both on the same level but both of them do things quiet differently, I guess at the end of the day it comes down to the the tuning one prefers.

 

Funny, I still prefer the EX1000 over the IE800. Just shows how preference is everything. ;) 

post #141 of 1316
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Funny, I still prefer the EX1000 over the IE800. Just shows how preference is everything. ;) 

Preference is really important but my house sound and the IEM that I will always feel right at home is ER4S. Same track sound considerably more difference on both IE-800 and Dita compared to EX-1000. While EX-1000 sound more like a headphone it seems to pick up less detail compared to the other two IEM.

 

From the lot IE-800 seems to be more detailed oriented.

post #142 of 1316
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Sadly EX-1000 can not longer compete with dita, but I cannot blame it as after all it is a really old one.

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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post
 

Preference is really important but my house sound and the IEM that I will always feel right at home is ER4S.

 

I had to chuckle while reading this. ;)

 

That said, I actually agree on the EX1000, they're tuned to sound rather holistic. So the Ditas are more detail oriented, like the IE800?

post #143 of 1316
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I had to chuckle while reading this. wink.gif

That said, I actually agree on the EX1000, they're tuned to sound rather holistic. So the Ditas are more detail oriented, like the IE800?

If I could explain the dita house sound I would, I can't. Just when the mid bass feels like it is going to boom somehow it transforms into giving sound a 3D effect and sense if air.

Here is where I wish someone like you could get a hold of a unit and give their expertise bone a tickle, I can say dita sound ins unique in my gear, can't say I got any other gear that sound like it.

If I had to describe it with only one word that would be engaging.

I am certainly not a warm loving guy but I like what dita did for bass . As I said my preference is ER4S and it is a gear that I do not need a lot of head time to get used to, it is not my favourite gear by the way, dita sound tunning is very new to me and it is something that was done either out of pure tuning brilliant or sheer luck. I guess we will find out when their next flagship arrives .
Edited by audionewbi - 4/20/14 at 6:22am
post #144 of 1316
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
 

Which tips do everyone prefer? I've got the blue (narrowest nozzle) on at the moment.

I am now trying Audio Technica Hybrids, I had trouble getting a good seal with the Tips that came with the Dita (I always have trouble getting a good seal on my left ear with all IEMs).

 

Before I didnt bother trying them up until now because I thought they wouldnt fit, but they did, easily. They are the same tips I use on my ATH-CK10.

 

This thread seems to have picked up and I enjoy reading the updates and impressions from other people who own or have tried the DITAs.

post #145 of 1316
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 I'm actually finding the mids quite prominent, albeit less so than the 846. In any case, if possible, people looking for a nice dynamic sound should give these an audition!

=) I think so as well about mids and giving the Answer a try if you want a good pair of DD based IEMs. (and they're a sight to behold as well)
To me the Answer sounds like a more exciting version of Stax SR-507. I found SR-507 to be neutral but a bit boring, (ultimately leading me to sell sr-507 and my stax solid state transistoramp v3 driver unit)
on the other hand the Answer has a bit of a mid-focused bass boost, then a mids boost and a bit of extra added sparkle. At the same time the level of detail is not that far off, and the feeling of wideness/presence is also reminiscent of Sr507. (or perhaps the later models of 404, since it was a bit funner than 507)
The mids on the H300 are colder but are also as or a bit more detailed, but I prefer the mids on the Answer. (same goes for the highs with the narrowest and second narrowest tips. I occasionally do get slight sibilance issues but I think they're track related (7-8khz).

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At first the mid-bass got me a little worried but a short-while later I realised the reason why Dita sounds is so natural and engaging is because of that particular clever tuning of the mid-bass. 
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c)Here is where I am different to other people. I do notice the mid-bass but it is not something that is badly implemented. So far I have not meet any particular cases where the mid-bass had influence my musical experience negatively. It is done just right in my view and it is nicely complements the rest of the sound. It is very hard to design dynamic IEM as there is really nothing much you can do to tune the sound beside making drastic design changes on the dynamic driver itself. Unlike BA IEM where difference cross-over design can change the sound with DD things are much harder. This is why I am okay with their house sound and I am hoping they release another side grade brother for their truth edition. 
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I am certainly not a warm loving guy but I like what dita did for bass . As I said my preference is ER4S and it is a gear that I do not need a lot of head time to get used to, it is not my favourite gear by the way, dita sound tunning is very new to me and it is something that was done either out of pure tuning brilliant or sheer luck
=) I don't really dislike it, but I think it's more of a sub-bass vs mid-bass relative amounts preference for me. Re what we find to be natural, but we could probably spend an entire thread . I think at the end of the day natural for me would be between H300 and The Answer for the bass.
Edited by svyr - 4/21/14 at 12:48am
post #146 of 1316
I need to try the H300 but truth be told if dita is paired with a warm amp the sound becomes not my liking.

i like to pair dita with something like objective 2 amp.
post #147 of 1316
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a) look forward to ed2 then biggrin.gif?

b) re removable cable - don't forget being able to roll cables for ergonomics. (for say mmcx plugs)
:P

 

Should we ever consider the use of a removable plug then the use of MMCX or any other type of plug would have to be closely related to the overall design implementation of the earpiece.  At Dita, we believe in an integrated design approach to product design.  If the MMCX is the most suitable, it will be considered.  If there aren't any commercially available plugs, then a new and appropriate one will have to be designed.


Edited by Ditti - 4/21/14 at 5:32am
post #148 of 1316
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I need to try the H300 but truth be told if dita is paired with a warm amp the sound becomes not my liking.

i like to pair dita with something like objective 2 amp.


Just an FYI here, we referenced the product during the development stage with many reference grade amps both portable and desk/ rack mounted.  As was our goal from the beginning, we wanted a sound that closely replicated the sound of a finely tuned, well set-up 2 channel stereo system.  To that end, some users may find the use of a warm amp not to their liking or vice versa.  We are glad to see that there are users who experience both on this thread.

post #149 of 1316
Please keep the community informed about your future gears . I for one cannot wait to see what you will bring to the market next.
post #150 of 1316
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Originally Posted by Ditti View Post

Should we ever consider the use of a removable plug then the use of MMCX or any other type of plug would have to be closely related to the overall design implementation of the earpiece.  At Dita, we believe in an integrated design approach to product design.  If the MMCX is the most suitable, it will be considered.  If there aren't any commercially available plugs, then a new and appropriate one will have to be designed.

I'm really loving the sound, but if I had to change anything, it would be a right angled jack, strain relief on the cable connected to the earpiece, and perhaps a shorter cable. It's less jeans friendly than say my Westone cables (which are frankly just amazing ergonomically haha).

But aside from that, I'm really proud that these were designed in SG! Listening to an acoustic track with these now, and the guitars and vocals sound sublime.
Edited by christrz - 4/21/14 at 9:28am
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