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post #31 of 51
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Originally Posted by jeremy205100 View Post
 

The AKG that I heard (K701) was too analytical. It would be great for acoustic and recordings, but not everyday listening. The Sennheiser HD5XX range is still relatively neutral but great for everyday uses. It is what got me hooked on headphones.

hahaha... what does "too analytical" mean? what does "great for everyday uses" mean?

 

Those are both subjective terms, based on the reviewer's preference.

 

That is why I highly highly recommend you go demo the headphones you are interested in (or buy both from a place w/ a good return policy). The best way to know what is best for you is to try em out!

post #32 of 51
Thread Starter 

Thank you for the help everyone. I am going to order the K550 and listen to them and if i think i will like the HDs better i will order them instead. Once i have listened to the cans for a while i will leave my review! :) wish me luck

post #33 of 51

Absolutely. Godspeed.

post #34 of 51
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Originally Posted by jeremy205100 View Post
 

I will admit that I only tried the K701s for a week, despised them because of their bass and then sent them back. The DT 990 is more artificial sounding but is more practical for me because I don't like EQing it. The build quality of the K701s was also extremely poor, especially for the price. 

 

I think OPs best bet is a pair of Sennheisers, the 598s are well within his budget and should be great for what he wants. 

What's this about the K701? 

 

 

There's a reason it's one of the most successful headphones in production along with the hd600/650s.

You think everyone goes "NO BASS"? 

Do me a favor, take off the pads, remove what's underneath, then give it a listen. 

But I feel you. I've personally never liked the sound signature.

 

 

Under 300 dollars? 

Kenwood Kh-k1000 closed.

Shure Srh1440 open.

Hifiman He300/400 optional.

 

You can also go the hd600/650 route for an used pair. But I highly doubt you want to get started there. Especially with edm/dance/electronica as your preferred genres.

post #35 of 51
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Originally Posted by jeremy205100 View Post
 

The AKG that I heard (K701) was too analytical. It would be great for acoustic and recordings, but not everyday listening. The Sennheiser HD5XX range is still relatively neutral but great for everyday uses. It is what got me hooked on headphones.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/621428/shouldnt-an-analytical-sound-be-superior

 

This would help explain what analytical means.

It's not used in your literary way.

post #36 of 51
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Originally Posted by inanimate View Post
 

Thank you for the help everyone. I am going to order the K550 and listen to them and if i think i will like the HDs better i will order them instead. Once i have listened to the cans for a while i will leave my review! :) wish me luck

GLHF! lol

 

look forward to reading your review :)

post #37 of 51
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What's this about the K701? 

 

 

There's a reason it's one of the most successful headphones in production along with the hd600/650s.

You think everyone goes "NO BASS"? 

Do me a favor, take off the pads, remove what's underneath, then give it a listen. 

But I feel you. I've personally never liked the sound signature.

 

 

Under 300 dollars? 

Kenwood Kh-k1000 closed.

Shure Srh1440 open.

Hifiman He300/400 optional.

 

You can also go the hd600/650 route for an used pair. But I highly doubt you want to get started there. Especially with edm/dance/electronica as your preferred genres.

So between the HD650s and the kg550 the kgs are better for my music genre correct? Since you said doubt you want to get started with the 650 route. 

post #38 of 51

I'm not saying the AKGs are bad headphones. What I consider analytical is that they have light bass and extremely accurate treble and mids. That is how I would describe the K701s. I don't have them anymore because I returned them after a week. Everyone obviously has different needs and will like different headphones. They just weren't for me. I thought they were overpriced, built very cheaply and anemic in the low end. Therefore, I wouldn't recommend them. But obviously other people can think differently. 

 

And I've never heard the K550s so I am assuming they sound similar, which they might not since one is closed and one is open. But to say that the Sennheiser 5XX series isn't successful is just twisting the facts. I am sure that they have sold more of them than the AKG K7XX series, if only because they are cheaper and have more marketing. That doesn't mean they're necessarily better, but you can't claim the AKGs have a better reputation than Sennheiser. 

 

And just to add, no open headphone is going to be the most successful because it's a niche market. Although everyone on here probably likes them, the vast majority of people 95-98% probably don't even know what they are. 

post #39 of 51
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Originally Posted by jeremy205100 View Post
 

I'm not saying the AKGs are bad headphones. What I consider analytical is that they have light bass and extremely accurate treble and mids. That is how I would describe the K701s. I don't have them anymore because I returned them after a week. Everyone obviously has different needs and will like different headphones. They just weren't for me. I thought they were overpriced, built very cheaply and anemic in the low end. Therefore, I wouldn't recommend them. But obviously other people can think differently. 

 

And I've never heard the K550s so I am assuming they sound similar, which they might not since one is closed and one is open. But to say that the Sennheiser 5XX series isn't successful is just twisting the facts. I am sure that they have sold more of them than the AKG K7XX series, if only because they are cheaper and have more marketing. That doesn't mean they're necessarily better, but you can't claim the AKGs have a better reputation than Sennheiser. 

 

And just to add, no open headphone is going to be the most successful because it's a niche market. Although everyone on here probably likes them, the vast majority of people 95-98% probably don't even know what they are. 

Let me enlighten you. I never stated that you thought they were bad.

In fact, I told you to remove what's underneath the pads and give them another try someday. I believe this is a must-have modification. I'm just tired of the same age-old the "k701" are too bass anemic, buy some sennheiser hdxxx. You would too if you've been on head-fi through the years.

 

Like you stated, it's all a matter of taste. Since I share the OP's taste, I feel comfortable giving him my personal recommendations.

And it was a matter of point to correcting your statements.

Who was talking about the Senn 5XX? I certainly didn't mention if they were successful or not. Only the AKGs. Which I actually have information on, considering one of my close friend's father is an industry insider for them. 

And once again, I don't think you understand what analytical means. It has nothing to do with accurate mids/treble or even neutral. In fact, most analytical cans are certainly not neutral. 

 

And FYI, we're all always talking about the Pro-market or audiophile oriented world.

Welcome to Head-fi. 

post #40 of 51

I like the Beyer headphones, the DT770, DT880 & DT990 would be in that price range.  The the Senn 558 & 598 are also both quite nice.

post #41 of 51

@Sil3nce, are you talking about analytic as in very detailed or very revealing or very bright/emphasized treble or as cold or as not colored/neutral or accurate-sounding? i have found that a lot of people throw these terms around so it can get very confusing what exactly they mean.

 

hahaha... i guess w/ process of elimination, extremely detailed?

post #42 of 51

"No one cares how much you know until they know how much you care." -- Teddy Roosevelt (attributed)

post #43 of 51
I believe, when it comes to tonality and the overall holistic presentation of the tangible spectrum of a specific iem/headphone, there is three possible categories. Neutral (Transparency and Balance. Poise) Analytical (Micro Details. Revealing by emphasizing particular frequencies for the intended effect.The sound tends to originate from in to out. "forward" rather than ecompassing. Though isn't always the case.) Lastly, we have Colored. Otherwise described as anything from warm, lush, dark, etc. These headphones or iems noticeably have a tilt towards a certain region. Doesn't affect rhymth and pacing so much as the overall tone. Often called euphonic or musical, these are the ones for people that prefer it colored.

Keep in mind, that one headphone may fall in more than once category. As all sound is progressive and perspective. Also, no headphone truly defines ruler flat neutrality. Perfectly analytical. Or absolutely stunningly musical.

Just my two cents.
post #44 of 51
I needed some help also with picking up a good headset. I'm not real sure what to get and I've been leading towards Sennheiser HD 598. But I want to be able to bring this with me to school and so I won't have an amplifier at all so I'm wondering is it a waste to get HD 598 with an amplifier and if so what would suit me in your opinion. And I can't use ear buds they hurt my ears. Please help me.
post #45 of 51
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Originally Posted by savatrocity View Post

I needed some help also with picking up a good headset. I'm not real sure what to get and I've been leading towards Sennheiser HD 598. But I want to be able to bring this with me to school and so I won't have an amplifier at all so I'm wondering is it a waste to get HD 598 with an amplifier and if so what would suit me in your opinion. And I can't use ear buds they hurt my ears. Please help me.

 

Are you requirements the same as OP? If not, start your own thread listing everything (source, amp, open/closed, over/on ear, budget, genres) and we'll tell you what we can.

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