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post #31 of 48
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
 

Regardless of differences,  like UM3X/UMPro30....they must sound damn near identical. This is not a big deal.  So you can buy UMPro 50 for $200 less than ES5 but it's not custom fit but you have re-sale value.

 

Yawn........

 

If you do NOT have fit issues with universals, always go with universals.  One exception would be my dual driver JH5's.   Terrific for the price and have equal sound quality as most triple and quad drivers.

 

For anyone wondering.....JH5 is a UM3X with less instrument separation but brighter and rawer (less refined) presentation.   JH5 rocks as intro to customs that wont break the budget.  Crushes every other dual driver I have heard.

Sorry if I'm drifting away, but can the JH5 compete against other triple drivers such as the 1964 V3 or Alclair Reference?

post #32 of 48

Don't know specifically about those but it easily hold up against W3, W4, UM3X, 

 
It is a "poormans"  JH16, no doubt.  Owned both at the same time.
 
Best $400 I spent here on HF over past 10 years.
post #33 of 48
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
 

Don't know specifically about those but it easily hold up against W3, W4, UM3X, 

 
It is a "poormans"  JH16, no doubt.  Owned both at the same time.
 
Best $400 I spent here on HF over past 10 years.

I'm not sure about the JH16 though... Thus not the JH5.. Don't really like too much bass in my music

post #34 of 48

Just received my ES50s yesterday, fit was great, got them done at a Hear For Life location in Ontario, Canada.

 

Here are some pics:

 

 

New, orange, casing, vs the old clear/black one. I'd have preferred the black one, but this has its own sort of charm I suppose. I also threw in one of Westone's monitor vaults for a more portable option when needed.

 

 

Same contents as the ES5s: branded cleaning cloth, oto-ease lubricant, cleaning tool, desiccant, and the monitors themselves.

 

 

And here they are, redesigned connectors and all.

 

There's been plenty said about the ES5s and since the ES50s are stuffed with the same parts, I don't really have much to add. I've been through multiple universal IEMs including ATH-CK10, EarSonics SM3, Shure SE315, and Westone's own um3x; but never once did I find a universal tip that was comfortable for more than an hour, pushing me to the customs market. Out of all of the universals I tried, I liked the um3x the best, so I went with the ES50s for my customs. Amazing bass, a smooth midrange, highs aren't exactly exciting, but it's all there, and most importantly for me, it's not fatiguing at all. The bass can occasionally feel a bit boomy, bleeding into the higher ranges, but that might be the ES50s exposing mixing faults that I wasn't aware of before, because it's not a consistent issue across songs.

 

I've only been with them for a day, but I'm enjoying them a lot, they've temporarily sidelined my HD650s as I continue to explore the ES50s nuances.


Edited by Shirukii - 3/18/14 at 9:52pm
post #35 of 48
Thread Starter 

Has anyone heard the ES60s?

post #36 of 48
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Originally Posted by Shirukii View Post

 

 

Can I know what colors those are? Candy Blue and Candy Red?

Thanks!

 

 

Interesting to note that the serial numbers are still ES5XXXXX, obviously the same product as the ES5 :O


Edited by mkps2 - 3/19/14 at 8:13am
post #37 of 48
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Originally Posted by mkps2 View Post
 

 

Can I know what colors those are? Candy Blue and Candy Red?

Thanks!

 

 

Interesting to note that the serial numbers are still ES5XXXXX, obviously the same product as the ES5 :O

 

The left is Candy Blue, the right is Pinot Noir, the deeper red of the Pinot Noir actually matches Candy Blue better than Candy Red, in my opinion.

 

Westone's new product lines are identical at their core, the UM series got new shelling and they changed to MMCX connectors across the board, but nothing has changed on the inside.

post #38 of 48

I just my ES5 phones in for an upgrade.  I'm getting the new MMCX jack and a MIC cable (microphone and buttons).  The price was reasonable given the higher prices of the new cables, and turnaround time is 5-7 days.  I've been quite pleased with the caliber and quality of their customer support, all the way from ordering/configuring to repair.  I've yet to talk to anyone at Westone who hasn't been both pleasant and helpful.

post #39 of 48

Great let us know how it goes!

post #40 of 48

I have been wondering which red matches the Gundam's Char's red better, would you say the Pinot Noir is a better match than candy red?

post #41 of 48
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Originally Posted by buihia View Post
 

in case anyone is interested :)

 

a reply from westone's rep

 

Thanks for your email.  The UM Pro 50 is the universal option for the ES50.  They will be the same 5 driver design, just a different configuration for a universal application.  The W50 is designed to reproduce frequencies of pre recorded music, not live sound like the ES50/UM Pro 50. Please let us know if you have any further questions. Thanks!


if you read the specs correctly, the pro 50 and es5/50 have different frequency responds and impedance. the driver might be the same, but i doubt other components are.

 

pro 50  20hz to 20khz while es50 5hz to 20khz

 

now we know most people cannot "hear" below 20hz, but it does create pressure wave that makes sound "sounds" more realistic, if the source allows the low hz that is.

secondly, I have been told on the pro 50 thread that a 5hz extension could  mean that the iem having a better respond around the 20hz, where as the chances are otherwise if it only stated 20hz extension. I really want someone who has technical knowledge to confirm this....

post #42 of 48
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Originally Posted by realgundam View Post
 


if you read the specs correctly, the pro 50 and es5/50 have different frequency responds and impedance. the driver might be the same, but i doubt other components are.

 

pro 50  20hz to 20khz while es50 5hz to 20khz

 

now we know most people cannot "hear" below 20hz, but it does create pressure wave that makes sound "sounds" more realistic, if the source allows the low hz that is.

secondly, I have been told on the pro 50 thread that a 5hz extension could  mean that the iem having a better respond around the 20hz, where as the chances are otherwise if it only stated 20hz extension. I really want someone who has technical knowledge to confirm this....

 

not real technical knowledge here, but i believe it's the same with everything in life. you don't want to be pushing the limits of any device/object or any person so to speak... say computing power - usually you're only good at around the middle levels and not extremes at max levels, the temperature rises really quickly and can have unstable performance.... (good to have headroom).

 

rifles too- good up to 300m, but at the range of 300m, you're probably really pushing it and accuracy will be greatly impeded.

 

just my 2c


Edited by mkps2 - 4/11/14 at 12:21am
post #43 of 48

Even the drivers, crossover etc are the same for the es50 and pro50, due to fit and seal difference between CIEM and UIEM, I guess the es50 and pro50 will still sound different. Actually, even the same UIEM, with different tips, could still sound quite different....

 

Still looking forward to the es60 :bigsmile_face:

post #44 of 48
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Originally Posted by hkppl View Post
 

Even the drivers, crossover etc are the same for the es50 and pro50, due to fit and seal difference between CIEM and UIEM, I guess the es50 and pro50 will still sound different. Actually, even the same UIEM, with different tips, could still sound quite different....

 

Still looking forward to the es60 :bigsmile_face:


read the 2 posts above you... >.>

post #45 of 48
I mean even "if" they are the same...

English is not my main language, sorry for confusion
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