Head-Fi.org › Forums › Help and Getting Started › Introductions, Help and Recommendations › looking for new cans...need inputs.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

looking for new cans...need inputs. - Page 2

post #16 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by ab111 View Post

Be careful when using adapters. If the amp shares a common ground then you will be fine but if the amp does not you will need a true balanced cable to run it off of speaker taps. I took the trrs balanced cable cut off the end and terminated it in speaker plugs and works great. Not the best looking but works. I'll probably commission someone for a cable in the future.
 


That is very true, but the Emotiva Mini-X has common ground. I use a single ended adapter on it myself. 

There are two ways to be safe about adapters. One is to make the adapter cable balanced, so that R- and L- are separate in the cable. You can't have a TRS jack anywhere on the cable or in the adapter, because TRS joins R- and L- into ground. If you have a balanced 4 pin XLR on the headphone (or a TRRS), you can get an XLR (or TRRS) to speaker taps adapter. Then you can hook it up to any amp at all.

The other way to be safe is to use three wires instead of 4 in your TRS to speaker taps adapter. Meaning that you have a wire for R+, one for L+, and a third for ground. This third wire connects the sleeve of the TRS jack to either one of the negative terminals on the amp. It makes no difference which. This sounds exactly the same as having both negative terminals connected if your amp is single ended. If your amp is balanced, it will probably sound weird but it shouldn't fry anything. This is the configuration I use. 

Anyway, all of this is kind of moot because the Emotiva Mini-X has common ground. 

post #17 of 21
Thread Starter 

Hey guys, thanks for the inputs.

 

Yeah this thing really does need a powerful amp.  Although the STX is pumping enough juice to give it enough volume, I really feel it needs more powerful.  At the moment, it does feel like the mids are a little recessed compared to the K712Pro.  The bass has more "meat" and "thump" to it, and the voices are more textured.  Somehow, I'm hearing more details than the K712Pro especially when gaming.  Although it doesn't have the airy and soundstage the K712 has, I feel I need a more powerful amp to bring it out.  I may return both the K712Pro and the HE-4 and bite the bullet get the HE-500.  This way at least I don't have to worry about getting an amp.  But we will see, the mids are lacking IMO.

post #18 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by nos024 View Post
 

Hey guys, thanks for the inputs.

 

Yeah this thing really does need a powerful amp.  Although the STX is pumping enough juice to give it enough volume, I really feel it needs more powerful.  At the moment, it does feel like the mids are a little recessed compared to the K712Pro.  The bass has more "meat" and "thump" to it, and the voices are more textured.  Somehow, I'm hearing more details than the K712Pro especially when gaming.  Although it doesn't have the airy and soundstage the K712 has, I feel I need a more powerful amp to bring it out.  I may return both the K712Pro and the HE-4 and bite the bullet get the HE-500.  This way at least I don't have to worry about getting an amp.  But we will see, the mids are lacking IMO.


You know, a lot of people also use the Emotiva Mini-X with the HE-500. The STX is still underpowered for the HE-500. If you already have the Emotiva, why not use it with the headphones? All you need is $15 worth of parts and a couple minutes stripping wire and using a screwdriver. It's pretty easy. 

post #19 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by nos024 View Post
 

Hey guys, thanks for the inputs.

 

Yeah this thing really does need a powerful amp.  Although the STX is pumping enough juice to give it enough volume, I really feel it needs more powerful.  At the moment, it does feel like the mids are a little recessed compared to the K712Pro.  The bass has more "meat" and "thump" to it, and the voices are more textured.  Somehow, I'm hearing more details than the K712Pro especially when gaming.  Although it doesn't have the airy and sound stage the K712 has, I feel I need a more powerful amp to bring it out.  I may return both the K712Pro and the HE-4 and bite the bullet get the HE-500.  This way at least I don't have to worry about getting an amp.  But we will see, the mids are lacking IMO.

Maybe change out the op-amps on the Essence STX?

AD797BR or LME49990

post #20 of 21
Thread Starter 
I would try to use the emotiva but I dont want to strip the wires yet. I think I might just bite the bullet and get an he500. That way I have more flexibility in amps choices and better mids.
post #21 of 21
Thread Starter 

Update:   Well I sent back the K712Pro.  I really liked them, but I felt it is pigeoned-hole into a few types of music genre.  I would've kept them if they were a bit cheaper.  I am going to miss them.

 

HE-4:  In the process of building an adapter for use with the emotiva a-100x. At this point, I am really interested in getting an HE-500.  I find it odd that Hifiman does not include a headphone-to-speaker cord when they know this is what people will do.  Perhaps they want you to buy an HE-adapter with a Balanced cable?

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Help and Getting Started › Introductions, Help and Recommendations › looking for new cans...need inputs.