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post #16 of 25
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Well I recently contacted Creative to get the measurements of the daughterboard: 105mm x 126.5mm x 20mm.

It is just a little too big, and the cable that connects both cards is also too short: 180mm

I am now looking at the Asus Xonar Essence One, but its price is a little too high for what it is and I am probably not going to use the XLR outputs. Does using a XLR (balanced) output have any advantages against using an unbalanced output with a good shielded cable?

post #17 of 25

I have a ZXR for 3 months now and it is really good sound with my pioneer hdj-2000 headphones. I was watching a show through the optical input into my dish network dvr and I could hear birds chirp in the back ground. I was watching the Ancient Alien series. Person speaking and music in the background while he was. I still heard the birds. Detail I have never heard in some of my movies. I'm thinking about getting a amp myself maybe a wa6. I had a Asus Xense Xonar SXT. The one that comes with the gaming headset. I bought it used without the set. I must say the ZXR sounds much better in my opinion using the same headphone to compare of course. I have a Antec Modular case. P45 motherboard by Biostar. PCIx1 slot is right above the video card. Daughter board for the ZXR is at the bottom of the case and the cable reaches. If you could use it without the daughter board it would still be worth it I think. 


Edited by jimdandy - 12/25/13 at 4:22am
post #18 of 25

I have never heard as much detail has I do now in my movies. Going back and watching all over again. I think the DAC on the ZXR is better than the Asus. Like to try a wa6 to see if detail is even more pronounced.

post #19 of 25
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I have never heard as much detail has I do now in my movies. Going back and watching all over again. I think the DAC on the ZXR is better than the Asus. Like to try a wa6 to see if detail is even more pronounced.

The Asus Essence comes with the PCM1792A DAC chip and the ZxR comes with the PCM1794.

From my understanding for all practical purposes they are the same DAC chip.

And the two sound cards use the same TI 6120A2 headphone amplifier chip.

And both sound cards use the JCR2114 op-amps for the headphone output.

But the ZxR is a much newer design, over the Essence (Xence?)


Edited by PurpleAngel - 12/25/13 at 9:40am
post #20 of 25

So they are both Burr-Brown? That is what is on the ZXR. If they both have the same chip then I don't understand the difference. Everything is the same except the sound cards. Maybe the Asus was abused but everything looks good (looking at it right now). No placebo effect. I have had the Asus for awhile and I liked it. Thought I would try the ZXR because the engineering looks better and more tech involved.

post #21 of 25
Thread Starter 

There is only one problem that stoppes me from buying the ZxR and that is the daughterboard. If the S/PDIF output was located on the mainboard of the soundcard, I would have bought it some time ago, but since it isn't, I am probably not going to buy it.

I have now opened another thread for the external DAC I am looking for here.

post #22 of 25
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So they are both Burr-Brown? That is what is on the ZXR. If they both have the same chip then I don't understand the difference. Everything is the same except the sound cards. Maybe the Asus was abused but everything looks good (looking at it right now). No placebo effect. I have had the Asus for awhile and I liked it. Thought I would try the ZXR because the engineering looks better and more tech involved.

The ZxR is a much newer design and there is other stuff on sound cards that affect audio quality, besides the DAC/Amp/op-amps (stuff beyond my knowledge).

 

Is the motherboard's on-board audio disabled? in the BIOS.

post #23 of 25

Yes. I build my know computers so I know quit a bit just not much about the chips. Processors and GPUs is another matter. Want to build a Haswell soon to replace this Conroe. I bought the ZXR mainly for the RCA outs and the optical output and input. I want a WA6 to use with the DAC. There are options the sound card has in software that desktop DACs don't have. Like DTS and Dolby. Desktop DACs don't support that yet. I don't see spending X amount of dollars for something that is not really better. I have read on here that DACs don't change much from sound cards at 100 to 200 dollars. The 300 and on up I start thinking "Ok what I am I really getting for my money and what I am I loosing."


Edited by jimdandy - 12/25/13 at 10:20am
post #24 of 25

Putting the money that I would spend on a expensive DAC on a better amp. I was going to use the Asus but it has no RCA outs so running a adapter to another amp would redundant.

post #25 of 25

I guess I should explain my setup. I have my computer hooked to my TV and another monitor. My favorite movies and all my music is downloaded to my computer. Have a Blu-Ray burner in it also so I can watch them. I also have a Sony receiver with a Kenwood 5.1 speaker system. I got in the box from a friend for 150. It is a STR-DH830. The headphones sound better,to me,through the computer than the receiver. I used to have the computer plugged into the receiver but I had to move so now l have someone living with me. So,the headphones are getting more use as far as music than the receiver. How situations change. I would sell the Sony but it would be hard to find a buyer so I keep it to watch TV shows through.


Edited by jimdandy - 12/25/13 at 10:43am
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