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post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Adding distortion is IMO not the answer. Since removing distortion is not a possible answer, the only remaining practical possiblility is EQ which has nothing to do with tubes, SS, cables, etc. Special effects are best left to musicians not the audience.

Through EQ alone I usually can't get the sound I seek, so it is some deliberate coloration for me (audience's harmless option). Folks liking their sound without any coloration are doing fine.

post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by i019791 View Post
 

Through EQ alone I usually can't get the sound I seek, so it is some deliberate coloration for me (audience's harmless option). Folks liking their sound without any coloration are doing fine.

If that's what pleases you, then that's what's good for you. You might change your mind in the future. The more carefully I listen the more I want clean sound. My only weakness is to push up the bass some as we cannot feel bass when listening through headphones or IEMs.

post #18 of 23

I think of dark/neutral/bright (bass emphasis vs flat vs treble emphasis) and warm/cold (tubey vs non-tubey for lack of a better word) to be two completely separate things.

 

I've heard cans that were dark/bright, but I've never heard cans that were warm/cold.

I've only heard electronics that could be warm/cold OR dark/bright.

 

Just my $.02 and YMMV.

post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by i019791 View Post
 
From experience with good speakers - minus soundstaging and bass feeling not technically possible with headphones.
In practice, based on the cans I have heard and keeping what seemed most satisfactory for me on each of them.

Out of curiosity, have you heard the Audeze LCD2/LCD3? I didn't think it was possible to get that kind of thump out of headphones until I experienced it myself.

post #20 of 23

Only the LCD-2 for some minutes through a Dragonfly - inconclusive for me at the time

post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by BeyerMonster View Post
 

I think of dark/neutral/bright (bass emphasis vs flat vs treble emphasis) and warm/cold (tubey vs non-tubey for lack of a better word) to be two completely separate things.

 

I've heard cans that were dark/bright, but I've never heard cans that were warm/cold.

I've only heard electronics that could be warm/cold OR dark/bright.

 

Just my $.02 and YMMV.

After some deliberation I had to accept your point

post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by BeyerMonster View Post
 

I think of dark/neutral/bright (bass emphasis vs flat vs treble emphasis) and warm/cold (tubey vs non-tubey for lack of a better word) to be two completely separate things.

 

I've heard cans that were dark/bright, but I've never heard cans that were warm/cold.

I've only heard electronics that could be warm/cold OR dark/bright.

 

Just my $.02 and YMMV.

The Audio Technica ATH-ESW9A is frequently described as being a "Warm Tubey Sounding Headphone." I think it sounds warm and not dark or bright. The T5P is Dark, the T770 and T70P are Bright, the ESW9A is Warm, the ES10 is Cold...

post #23 of 23
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Originally Posted by baronkatz View Post
 
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Originally Posted by BeyerMonster View Post
 

I think of dark/neutral/bright (bass emphasis vs flat vs treble emphasis) and warm/cold (tubey vs non-tubey for lack of a better word) to be two completely separate things.

 

I've heard cans that were dark/bright, but I've never heard cans that were warm/cold.

I've only heard electronics that could be warm/cold OR dark/bright.

 

Just my $.02 and YMMV.

The Audio Technica ATH-ESW9A is frequently described as being a "Warm Tubey Sounding Headphone." I think it sounds warm and not dark or bright. The T5P is Dark, the T770 and T70P are Bright, the ESW9A is Warm, the ES10 is Cold...

Interesting. I'll have to check them out sometime. Note that I don't claim that it's false. I've just never experienced it for myself.

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