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Yes mate, you will definitely like this! It's borderline analytical to my ears but still retains a natural timbre/sound, so you're not giving up any detail and clarity while staying musical/natural sounding.

But wait there's more...
paired with the C5 with bass boost on (+6.5db @ 80hz?) The sound signature gets pretty close to Goldenears Target. This is the signature that I prefer for most genres.

Do you prefer the bass boost on full time? Or is it genre related?
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Do you prefer the bass boost on full time? Or is it genre related?

 

It's genre related. I tend to turn the bass boost on with Pop, Rock, Metal and EDM.

Pop, Rock, Classical, Jazz, and Contemporary are awesome with the Noble 4 as is.


Edited by d marc0 - 3/3/14 at 3:10pm
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Another iem on my wish list...anyone compared them to comparable level iems?
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I'll just post this here from the R3 thread:

 

Alright, here are my new and improved R3s, courtesy of my tech neighbour/pal:

 

 

And in position:

 

 

No more annoyance whatsoever, he did a good job. He also commented on how well-made the cable was.

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Another iem on my wish list...anyone compared them to comparable level iems?

 

The dollar value of your wish list is going up doc!

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Another iem on my wish list...anyone compared them to comparable level iems?

The dollar value of your wish list is going up doc!

Are you kidding? This is still in the inexpensive section of the wish list, with stuff like Audeze, Cardas, Miracle, ASG2, and others holding on to the top positions (they tend to stay on the wish list much longer, though, LOL) wink.gif
Edited by doctorjazz - 3/1/14 at 4:04pm
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Lol I try to streamline my wishlist with only 5 max capacity. If something new gets my interest, one falls off the list. Currently holding H3, L2, primo8, C5D...
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I'll just post this here from the R3 thread:

Alright, here are my new and improved R3s, courtesy of my tech neighbour/pal:


 

That's magnificent! Exactly how I imagined it. Now I gotta find someone in Straya who can do the same. It's really essential for the R3's. Thanks for sharing mate!


Edited by d marc0 - 3/2/14 at 3:05am
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Anyone has IEM upgrade cables with in-line mic to recommend please? The only ones I know of are from Double Helix Cables and they are super expensive..

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Anyone has IEM upgrade cables with in-line mic to recommend please? The only ones I know of are from Double Helix Cables and they are super expensive..

You can request such option with sunricky from eBay. http://m.ebay.com.au/seller?itemId=251331622683&sid=sunricky

I believe he has an option for either android or ios.
Edited by d marc0 - 3/2/14 at 2:32am
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You can request such option with sunricky from eBay. http://m.ebay.com.au/seller?itemId=251331622683&sid=sunricky

I believe he has an option for either android or ios.

Cheers for the tip d marc0! :beerchug:

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Do you prefer the bass boost on full time? Or is it genre related?
 

It's genre related. I tend to turn the bass boost on with Pop, Rock, Metal and EDM.

Pop, Rock, Classical, Jazz, and Contemporary are awesome with the Noble 4 as is.

 

UPDATE: It's also VERY source dependent! My impression above is from listening through C3 or C3+C5 combo.

                With a warm source such as my iPod touch 5th gen (no amp), the Noble 4 transparently relays the warmness through.

                So with the iPod touch, I no longer need bass boost for most genres even for some EDMs. Only in Metal do I really need that bass boost but I got my H200 for that.

 

As for TRANSPARENCY, the Noble 4 is top notch! Sometimes too much for its own good. If your track was mastered poorly the Noble 4 will not mask anything... not even a bit!

Listening to my Def Leppard catalogue I have determined which album was mixed poorly. Joe Eliott's voice is a very good benchmark for testing how your IEMs handle sibilance.

  • Hysteria       - Strident and hot in upper mid-range / lower treble
  • High N Dry   - a bit edgy in the upper mid-range, otherwise a well mixed album
  • Pyromania   - clean
  • Adrenalize   - awesome
  • Retro Active - perfect!

Edited by d marc0 - 3/3/14 at 3:11pm
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UPDATE: It's also VERY source dependent! My impression above is from listening through C3 or C3+C5 combo.

                With a warm source such as my iPod touch 5th gen (no amp), the Noble 4 transparently relays the warmness through.

                So with the iPod touch, I no longer need bass boost for most genres even for some EDMs. Only in Metal do I really need that bass boost but I got my H200 for that.

 

As for TRANSPARENCY, the Noble 4 is top notch! Sometimes too much for its own good. If your track was mastered poorly the Noble 4 will not mask anything... not even a bit!

Listening to my Def Leppard catalogue I have determined which album was mixed poorly. Joe Eliott's voice is a very good benchmark for testing how your IEMs handle sibilance.

  • Hysteria       - Strident and hot in upper mid-range / lower treble
  • High N Dry   - a bit edgy in the upper mid-range, otherwise a well mixed album
  • Pyromania   - clean
  • Adrenalize   - awesome
  • Retro Active - perfect!



The way you mention transparency reminds me of my Rhapsodio hybrid. almost see through at times, although a little thin for the first 5 minutes if switching  from something else. Do you have any problems switching over from H-200 to Noble 4? I need to use a slightly warm source (for example) Sony NWZ-F806 to tone the Rhapsodio down a little. Sounds like your Noble 4 is winning you more each day. ;) The 1Plus2 you heard is thicker in the mid range compared to my Rhapsodio would you say Noble 4 is thinner than that? And for detailing levels with the Noble 4 do you feel they reach levels the 1Plus2 you demoed could extend to? For example female vocalists?

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The way you mention transparency reminds me of my Rhapsodio hybrid. almost see through at times, although a little thin for the first 5 minutes if switching  from something else. Do you have any problems switching over from H-200 to Noble 4? I need to use a slightly warm source (for example) Sony NWZ-F806 to tone the Rhapsodio down a little. Sounds like your Noble 4 is winning you more each day. ;) The 1Plus2 you heard is thicker in the mid range compared to my Rhapsodio would you say Noble 4 is thinner than that? And for detailing levels with the Noble 4 do you feel they reach levels the 1Plus2 you demoed could extend to? For example female vocalists?

 

  • Switching from the H-200 to Noble 4 or vice versa doesn't affect me at all. The H-200 female vocals are presented further back because the upper mid-rage is a bit thin but the boosted bass kinda balances things out to stay close in line with the Noble 4. The Noble 4 is fuller/richer in the mids, so vocals (especially female) sound a bit more natural and intimate; but since the bass isn't boosted, the tonality isn't far off from the H-200.
  • It's hard to explain but the differences in their tuning end up balancing each other out when you compare the overall sound. The H-200 although thinner in the upper mids doesn't necessarily sound brighter because of the added warmth from the bass end. The Noble 4 although fuller/richer in the mids doesn't sound warmer in comparison because the bass end is fairly neutral. You will only notice the obvious difference if you shift your concentration on a certain spectrum. So if I listen more closely to guitars, the H-200 will sound brighter but when I shift my attention towards the bass guitar or drum kicks, the Noble 4 will then sound colder. It's really weird... either way I like the sound signature. H-200 for more fun and unique presentation, then the Noble 4 for a more straight forward sound: no frills, no gimmicks, no enhancements, just plain and almost flawless presentation. Please NOTE: my H200 has a filter mod fitted with Sony MH1 tips, so it doesn't sound as bright as you'd normally do without my mods.
  • From memory, I think the Noble 4 midrange is fuller/richer than the 1Plus2 (not sure). What I can clearly remember though, is they both are really great in detail, layering, timbre, and imaging. Those are the factors that reminded me of the 1plus2 while listening to the Noble 4. However, I do remember that the H200 is thinner in the mids compared to the 1Plus2. So I think it's safe to say that the Noble 4 isn't that much thicker than the 1Plus2.
  • Detail and extension level of the Noble 4 is really really good IMO. Not sure if it's better or closer to the 1Plus2 but I'd say I can clearly hear from 20hz to 18kHz in a sound test. Listening to music I can hear a lot of micro details in the background. I can also clearly distinguish whether listening to 16/44 FLAC or 256kbps AAC using the Noble 4 because the airiness is very transparent.

 

Judging on how you describe the Rapsodio... I think the Noble 4 will sound warmer when compared.


Edited by d marc0 - 3/3/14 at 2:57am
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Do you prefer the bass boost on full time? Or is it genre related?
 

It's genre related. I tend to turn the bass boost on with Pop, Rock, Metal and EDM.

Pop, Rock, Classical, Jazz, and Contemporary are awesome with the Noble 4 as is.

 

 

UPDATE: It's also VERY source dependent! My impression above is from listening through C3 or C3+C5 combo.

                With a warm source such as my iPod touch 5th gen (no amp), the Noble 4 transparently relays the warmness through.

                So with the iPod touch, I no longer need bass boost for most genres even for some EDMs. Only in Metal do I really need that bass boost but I got my H200 for that.

 

As for TRANSPARENCY, the Noble 4 is top notch! Sometimes too much for its own good. If your track was mastered poorly the Noble 4 will not mask anything... not even a bit!

Listening to my Def Leppard catalogue I have determined which album was mixed poorly. Joe Eliott's voice is a very good benchmark for testing how your IEMs handle sibilance.

  • Hysteria       - Strident and hot in upper mid-range / lower treble
  • High N Dry   - a bit edgy in the upper mid-range, otherwise a well mixed album
  • Pyromania   - clean
  • Adrenalize   - awesome
  • Retro Active - perfect!

 

UPDATE: My apologies guys... please disregard my initial impression in regard to pairing the Noble 4 with the C3. I made the corrections above.

 

Last night I listened to the H-200 on the C3 and noticed it sounded quite different. For some reason, the EQ settings was activated on my C3. So any initial impression regarding bass response with the C3 is not accurate.

 

Listening to the Noble 4 now with the C3, bass response is much more revealing with EQ off. The sub bass still rolls off but that's because the C3 does roll off under 50hz. Adding the JDSlabs C5 even with bass boost OFF corrects this problem and I can now easily hear 20hz on the Noble 4. It's now almost as warm as the iPod touch 5gen but has better 3Dness and airiness.

 

Test Tracks:

Avril Lavigne - Anything But Ordinary: Sub bass passages in the first verse can't be heard with C3 alone. Paired with the C5 (bass boost OFF), the sub bass is now audible.

Michel Jonasz - Le Fabuleuse His...r Swing (Live Album): Sub bass is easily heard with C3 alone. Paired with the C5, bass texture and quantity are substantially better.


Edited by d marc0 - 3/3/14 at 3:29pm
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