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post #16 of 22

You've really done your research and clearly have a very good understanding of the issues. I'm impressed.

 

I haven't yet heard a closed model that I consider very good. (KNS8400 is close, but it's too bright and its cable definitely needs to be replaced.) There are several very good open models. I can most easily recommend HD600 and K70x.

 

I haven't heard the K550 yet. It's gotten good reviews even from reviewers who generally dislike AKG. I have read that if your head is small, you can hardly get a good fit, but you should otherwise be fine. Note, though, that it doesn't really fold up apart from folding flat.

 

The Momentum sounds good; it reminds me of HD650 in its well-roundedness. But you're right about the comfort. The good side is that it weighs quite light on the head, but it has very small earcups. Because of that, I can't really recommend it.

 

One new headphone, which I haven't heard yet, that's getting noticed is NAD Viso HP50. (http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/i-love-these-headphonesthe-nad-viso-hp50) But again comfort is a concern because the earcups are the same width as M50, though I'm not sure about the depth. You can ask on the HP50 thread and they'll tell you.

 

I'm not so familiar with the many DAC/amp combos. Are you sure you need a DAC? If you need only an amp, I can recommend the Objective O2. It's a good little box that has powered everything I've tried with it, but it's larger than the other portable amps.  A number of Fiio products have been well reviewed including even E5, and I don't find that hard to believe. I've met a couple of experienced Head-Fiers who are happy with E17, but I haven't tried it.

post #17 of 22

the HP50 looks good, i wonder how well it stands up against the Mad Dog.

post #18 of 22
Thread Starter 

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Oh god, you guys are brutal.

 

Ideally I would want a headphone that I could use in multiple scenarios. eg, Something I could use and be happy with on my pc, but also something that I could use with an Ipod or laptop if need be -- preferably without disturbing anyone around me. And of-course, then the ideal Dac/Amp would be able to move with me, as-well as be used stationary at a pc.

 

That being said, I understand that that is a pretty extensive request, that is why I was curious if getting an open phone -- that would be tied down to my pc -- and just picking up something just for portable use later would be a better option. But I'm not really sure how these headphones stack up against each other, as audiophiles don't like to agree. :wink:

 

 

So basically would:

 

    Portable(kinda):

        AKG550+ 100-150$ dac/amp = 300-350

        Momentum(used?) + 100-150$ dac/amp = 300-350

 

    Not:

       dt880s+ 100-200$ dac/amp = 300-400$

       hd598+ 100-200$ dac/amp =250-400$

       hd600+ 200$ dac/amp = 500$

       he400+ 100-200$ dac/amp = 400-500$

 

My view::

 

Wondering which would provide me with the best value, while I'm sure the hd600/he400 would provide the best sound, they would also be very, very not portable while being more costly -- also the he400 may require headphone mod, and the hd600 may not be adequately amped by a cheaper(ish) amp, and I'm not looking to drop huge money amping a headphone. But again, if they were that superior sound-wise the cost extra cost may be worth it in the long term.

 

Where-as I'm sure that I could use the Akg/Momentum in a portable way. I'm concerned about the audio quality of both as they are only 100$ish cheaper than the other options, and of-course comfort is a concern with the momentum.(which is why I was leaning towards akg )

 

Then the dt880/598 are the middle ground, again not being sure how these stack up, I thought there might not be a huge difference between the he400/hd600 and the dt880/hd598, and with the cost difference I might be able to pick up a 100-150$~ IEM/on-ear, to make up for the fact they are not portable.(would still cost more than a multi-use headphone though)

 

 

OP Edited for clarity.


Edited by WTFGoD - 12/7/13 at 3:24am
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by WTFGoD View Post

 

Ideally I would want a headphone that I could use in multiple scenarios. eg, Something I could use and be happy with on my pc, but also something that I could use with an Ipod or laptop if need be -- preferably without disturbing anyone around me. And of-course, then the ideal Dac/Amp would be able to move with me, as-well as be used stationary at a pc.

 

So basically would:

 

    Portable(kinda):

        AKG550+ 100-150$ dac/amp = 300-350

        Momentum(used?) + 100-150$ dac/amp = 300-350

 

    Not:

       dt880s+ 100-200$ dac/amp = 300-400$

       hd598+ 100-200$ dac/amp =250-400$

       hd600+ 200$ dac/amp = 500$

       he400+ 100-200$ dac/amp = 400-500$

 

My view::

 

Wondering which would provide me with the best value [...]

 

In my experience, taking an open model outdoors or to work has been futile. For that reason and reasons specific to my workplace, I've ended up listening almost exclusively at home. So if your head isn't especially small, why not try K550? Given its specs, try it first without an amp/DAC to see what you think of that. It should sound good right out of an iPod. Only you can decide if that's good enough. (If you're running it off a computer, I've read that a good soundcard will improve the sound more than a DAC, but I don't use my computer for music so I know little about that or the cost.)

post #20 of 22

I don't know...i think you should take a serious look at the Mad Dog, it will be great for home and portable use. 

 

Mad Dog: https://www.mrspeakers.com/MrSpeakers-Mad-Dog-Alpha-Pad-Fostex-T50RP-headphone 

 

if you got the Mad Dog it would give you enough money to buy a good portable amp 

 

This thread has reviews of all the potable amps under 200; http://www.head-fi.org/t/620775/the-sub-200-portable-amps-shootout-13-11-amps-compared

 

you would still probably need a DAC though.  

post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post
 

 

In my experience, taking an open model outdoors or to work has been futile. For that reason and reasons specific to my workplace, I've ended up listening almost exclusively at home. So if your head isn't especially small, why not try K550? Given its specs, try it first without an amp/DAC to see what you think of that. It should sound good right out of an iPod. Only you can decide if that's good enough. (If you're running it off a computer, I've read that a good soundcard will improve the sound more than a DAC, but I don't use my computer for music so I know little about that or the cost.)

 

Yea, I think I may just do that. I still feel it's a gamble on sound quality being good enough.(hoping I don't end up having to come back and getting the hd600 too) :D

 

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Originally Posted by Ginron View Post
 

I don't know...i think you should take a serious look at the Mad Dog, it will be great for home and portable use. 

 

Mad Dog: https://www.mrspeakers.com/MrSpeakers-Mad-Dog-Alpha-Pad-Fostex-T50RP-headphone 

 

if you got the Mad Dog it would give you enough money to buy a good portable amp 

 

This thread has reviews of all the potable amps under 200; http://www.head-fi.org/t/620775/the-sub-200-portable-amps-shootout-13-11-amps-compared

 

you would still probably need a DAC though.  

 

 

 

While that is very well reviewed, no way i would take a chance on it unless I heard it personally.

post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by WTFGoD View Post
 

 

Yea, I think I may just do that. I still feel it's a gamble on sound quality being good enough.(hoping I don't end up having to come back and getting the hd600 too) :D

 

 

While that is very well reviewed, no way i would take a chance on it unless I heard it personally.

ok, but your taking just as much of a chance with the AKG K550 (unless you have a way to listen to them before you buy). 

 

you should look at both these threads before making your decision 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/683663/mr-speakers-mad-dog-review

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/610298/akg-k550-review

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