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post #991 of 1615

I tested a Gamma2 that had the ASRC bypassed (worth trying if you don't need "HD" music capabilities), and I used the USB input. I thought it was an awesome DAC in that config. Blew me away for the size and price.

post #992 of 1615
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Originally Posted by ericr View Post
 

Great, thanks for the feedback.  There's one in stock at the RS down the street from my office - I'll pick it up tomorrow.

Also, for anyone else interested here is a corrected link (the original is missing the last digit):

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3964910

 

I have tried a no brand RCA switch, not the same one as you listed.  I bought it for $29 from Target or RS, I forgot.   The one I tried was not good, it blurred the sound, makes $1000 DAC sounds like computer sound card, and worse than my mobile phone's output.   Returned immediately.

 

You can first try to compare the sound with vs without the RCA switch.  If can't spot any difference, then the switch is good enough, go ahead with A/B test.

Hope this RS brand switch is good.


Edited by yfei - 6/27/14 at 6:22pm
post #993 of 1615
Of course using a switch also means buying another pair of $1000 RCA interconnects.

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post #994 of 1615

Purrin, I am curious what you think of Audio GD's implementation of the Sabre 9018 and Wolfson 8741 chips in any of their other DACs you may have experience with?

post #995 of 1615

I am looking forward to the YGG vs Chord Hugo impressions. I wonder if the YGG will be in the same playing field. Some people are even saying that the Hugo is as good if not better than the Audio GD M7! I hope the YGG is up there also but i suppose only time will tell. 

 

 

Purrin have you heard the Hugo? Maybe you could say if it is close to the M7? 

post #996 of 1615
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The Hugo is extremely mediocre. While it's not class S, it simply won't make any part of this the list. Not worth mentioning.

 

The M7, even with its crappy built-in USB, especially with the recent firmware upgrades, is better. Heck, even the AK120 (old ones with the Wolfson chips) is better than the Hugo. Some people like the Chord house sound though.

post #997 of 1615
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Originally Posted by d4nim4l View Post
 

Purrin, I am curious what you think of Audio GD's implementation of the Sabre 9018 and Wolfson 8741 chips in any of their other DACs you may have experience with?

 

Have not hard the Wolfson AG-Ds. Thought NFB-7.2? was a solid SABRE implementation, but Vega was better (and also much more expensive). It's hard for me to say because I don't like the SABRE.

post #998 of 1615
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post

Heck, even the AK120 (old ones with the Wolfson chips) is better than the Hugo. Some people like the Chord house sound though.

I like the Hugo as a portable dac/amp, definitely sounded a lot better than my ak240 either as a DAC only or as DAC/amp. And I much prefer my ak240 over my (now sold) ak120... to me the Hugo has better resolution and clarity, fuller sound, better defined note articulation, and overall more enjoyable than the AKs. Not sure if I like the "chord hose sound" as I didn't care for the cute ex or qbd76 and thought Hugo sound quite different then either. Just my 2c.

Re desktop comparison, there are some hype going on saying it challenge many different makes/models and I certainly don't buy into that. Though interesting enough some PS audio owners place it between pwd2 (worse) and the directstream (better), and plenty of Naim owners switching camps.
Edited by kkcc - 7/4/14 at 10:51pm
post #999 of 1615
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I far preferred the AK120 (wolfson) to the AK240 which I felt was huge huge step backwards in terms of microdynamics. The AK240 sounded dull, flat, and boring. I hate the AK240. I wouldn't use the AK240 even if someone gave it to me for free. In fact, I would probably smash it with a hammer, burn it, and make a youtube video of that to prove how much I hated it.

 

As for the Chord house sound, I'm referring to a particular tonal balance (kind of hard to describe) which seems to be common among them; although I agree the Cute, others definitely have a different timbral presentation, not a good one, particularly in the treble. The Hugo's greatest asset was that it didn't do anything to sound nasty. While the Hugo may be an improvement over the AK240 in terms of focus and precision, I found it just as flat and boring. Flat and boring is one of the biggest deal killers for me, along with SABRE treble digititus. Of course I've be damned if I found out the Hugo uses the SABRE.


Edited by purrin - 7/4/14 at 11:22pm
post #1000 of 1615
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post

I far preferred the AK120 (wolfson) to the AK240 which I felt was huge huge step backwards in terms of microdynamics. The AK240 sounded dull, flat, and boring. I hate the AK240. I wouldn't use the AK240 even if someone gave it to me for free. In fact, I would probably smash it with a hammer, burn it, and make a youtube video of that to prove how much I hated it.

Yup I guess we all have different preferences. I also wasn't a fan of the cirrus logic on my 6003 and didn't thought I would like the ak240 when it was first announced.

Also reading thru your comprehensive impressions it makes sense you would prefer the Wolfson 8740 sound over the cirrus logics, or even the Hugo.
post #1001 of 1615
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post
 

I far preferred the AK120 (wolfson) to the AK240 which I felt was huge huge step backwards in terms of microdynamics. The AK240 sounded dull, flat, and boring. I hate the AK240. I wouldn't use the AK240 even if someone gave it to me for free. In fact, I would probably smash it with a hammer, burn it, and make a youtube video of that to prove how much I hated it.

 

As for the Chord house sound, I'm referring to a particular tonal balance (kind of hard to describe) which seems to be common among them; although I agree the Cute, others definitely have a different timbral presentation, not a good one, particularly in the treble. The Hugo's greatest asset was that it didn't do anything to sound nasty. While the Hugo may be an improvement over the AK240 in terms of focus and precision, I found it just as flat and boring. Flat and boring is one of the biggest deal killers for me, along with SABRE treble digititus. Of course I've be damned if I found out the Hugo uses the SABRE.

nothing if not opinionated. I like it. 

post #1002 of 1615

Audio-GD's Wolfson-based DACs should be solid performers, and I like that some offer selectable digital filters (big strength of the Wolfson DACs). But don't overlook the Gamma2 either, if you want a Wolfson DAC.

post #1003 of 1615
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Originally Posted by wink View Post
 

I always apply Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle when I'm auditioning gear.

 

I'm uncertain as to whether the thing sounds better until I had bought it.

I'm uncertain whether the thing was worth the money until I had bought it.

I'm uncertain if it sounds better than my other gear until I had listened to it for at least a couple of days.

I'm incertain if burn-in is real until I get used to the way the thing sounds.

I'm uncertain whether I really inderstand what I'm hearing.

I'm uncertain whether this makes any sense at all..

 

But, what I am certain about is that I like all my gear except the AT W5000 which sound more coloured than a childrens' art class.


Or you could use the Schodingers Cat principle. It's absolutley perfect, until you take it out of the box.;)

post #1004 of 1615
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 Or you could use the Schodingers Cat principle. It's absolutley perfect, until you take it out of the box.;)

It's more like - you don't know what you've got until you take it out of the box.

 

I like Bernoulli's Lift Theorem being applied to music to give it an extra kick.

 

It works like a charm on everything except a funeral march and Wagner's Ring Cycle. Nothing can help Wagner...........

post #1005 of 1615
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It works like a charm on everything except a funeral march and Wagner's Ring Cycle. Nothing can help Wagner...........

 

Except Elmer Fudd...

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