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post #976 of 1940
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Originally Posted by BeyerMonster View Post
 

This is the approach I usually take, though it's usually more like days or a weekend instead of hours.

 

I think this sounds like an interesting idea, I tend to want to swap a little to often listening for differences.

 

I actually got a new DAC just yesterday...  and I think I might try this opposite approach for once, just plug it in and listen to music and not even care about listening for differences. After a 2-3 days I might switch back to my old DAC and we'll see.

 

Carefree and non-analytical but looking for musical enjoyment, could work.

post #977 of 1940
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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post

 

I think this sounds like an interesting idea, I tend to want to swap a little to often listening for differences.

 

I actually got a new DAC just yesterday...  and I think I might try this opposite approach for once, just plug it in and listen to music and not even care about listening for differences. After a 2-3 days I might switch back to my old DAC and we'll see.

 

Carefree and non-analytical but looking for musical enjoyment, could work.

I would say I try to focus on the sound itself, and not specifically differences(Schrödinger's cat). While I do try to focus on musical enjoyment, I wouldn't say that I purposely avoid trying to be analytical in my approach. If/when I think I find differences, I might do some A/B swapping to go back and confirm later.

 

My local hi-fi shop is actually the one that recommended the approach as they let me take stuff home when they close on Sat if I bring it back on Tuesday (They're closed Sun/Mon). It's really useful for getting past the novelty factor of new changes. For example, what sounds as "more accurate or analytical" can turn into thin/glaring/harsh if you listen for more than a few hours over a wide rang of content. The end goal is usually to find gear that sounds best over a long period of ownership, not the ones that sound best only in 5 minute A/B tests.

post #978 of 1940

Schrödinger's cat :D

 

Always fun when you can mix quantum theory into one of your hobbies. :rolleyes:

 

But yes, this sounds like a good idea. I'll give it a go.

 

BTW - when it comes to quantum theory there are two kinds of people. Those who don't understand it, and those who think they understand it. But upon closer inspection both groups frequently change their mind.

 

Old physics joke.

post #979 of 1940

I always apply Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle when I'm auditioning gear.

 

I'm uncertain as to whether the thing sounds better until I had bought it.

I'm uncertain whether the thing was worth the money until I had bought it.

I'm uncertain if it sounds better than my other gear until I had listened to it for at least a couple of days.

I'm incertain if burn-in is real until I get used to the way the thing sounds.

I'm uncertain whether I really inderstand what I'm hearing.

I'm uncertain whether this makes any sense at all..

 

But, what I am certain about is that I like all my gear except the AT W5000 which sound more coloured than a childrens' art class.

post #980 of 1940

"I'm uncertain whether this makes any sense at all..."

 

Such is life.  

 

...

post #981 of 1940
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Originally Posted by wink View Post
 

I always apply Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle when I'm auditioning gear.

 

I'm uncertain as to whether the thing sounds better until I had bought it.

I'm uncertain whether the thing was worth the money until I had bought it.

I'm uncertain if it sounds better than my other gear until I had listened to it for at least a couple of days.

I'm incertain if burn-in is real until I get used to the way the thing sounds.

I'm uncertain whether I really inderstand what I'm hearing.

I'm uncertain whether this makes any sense at all..

 

But, what I am certain about is that I like all my gear except the AT W5000 which sound more coloured than a childrens' art class.

here is a  laughing donkey, he thought that was very funny indeed ¬

 

post #982 of 1940

I'll give you another one.

 

"It has become appallingly obvious that our high-end equipment has exceeded our ability of hearing"

 

Should be a relatively easy catch. ;)

 

I think I'll make that my sig for a while.. lol.

post #983 of 1940
Quote:TwoEars
 Schrödinger's cat :D

Yeah, These forums are like Schrodinger's cat.

You can read all the posts as much as you like, and audition what you want at a meet or shop etc., but you don't really know what you've bought until after you've opened your own box.

 

It is only after you integrate the item into your system and get accustomed to the whole shebang that you can determine whether the cat is alive, or you have yourself a pig in a poke........

post #984 of 1940
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post

 

For Sale: FS: Audio-gd Master 7 (Upgraded BNC - Neutrino Clocks and DACLadder HDMI Mod)
$1,985 (USD)

 

Just noticed from your sig you're selling your M7.  What's the next DAC you're setting your sight on?

post #985 of 1940
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Originally Posted by wink View Post
 

Yeah, These forums are like Schrodinger's cat.

You can read all the posts as much as you like, and audition what you want at a meet or shop etc., but you don't really know what you've bought until after you've opened your own box.

 

It is only after you integrate the item into your system and get accustomed to the whole shebang that you can determine whether the cat is alive, or you have yourself a pig in a poke........

 

Wise words.

 

I like to compare it to cars.. You can ask "what is the best car in the world" but it quickly becomes a pointless question because there are so many possible answers. Is it the cheapest car? The most reliable car? the fastest car? the most comfortable car? etc etc....

post #986 of 1940
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post
 

 

Just noticed from your sig you're selling your M7.  What's the next DAC you're setting your sight on?

 

Still deciding but I have a Bricasti M1 on order via a local dealer. 

post #987 of 1940

Hi all,

 

Recently I've acquired an Uber Bifrost (w USB gen 2) and an ODAC with RCA out, and would like to do some A/B comparisons.  Using RCA "Y" splitter cables, can I connect both DACs to my amp at the same time and quickly switch between the two by selecting one or the other as the output in Foobar?  Or will they electrically mess with one another (or my amp)?

 

No guessing please.

 

 

Thanks! 

post #988 of 1940

The AMB Gamma2 also looks interesting, but noticed it lacks Async USB.  Does that matter?

post #989 of 1940
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ericr View Post
 

Hi all,

 

Recently I've acquired an Uber Bifrost (w USB gen 2) and an ODAC with RCA out, and would like to do some A/B comparisons.  Using RCA "Y" splitter cables, can I connect both DACs to my amp at the same time and quickly switch between the two by selecting one or the other as the output in Foobar?  Or will they electrically mess with one another (or my amp)?

 

No guessing please.

 

 

Thanks! 

 

Don't do that. Use a cheap A/V switch instead: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=396491

 

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Originally Posted by ericr View Post
 

The AMB Gamma2 also looks interesting, but noticed it lacks Async USB.  Does that matter?

 

At the price point (used or DIY), it doesn't matter. I've heard worse USB solutions. Buzzwords are just that.

post #990 of 1940
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post
 

 

Don't do that. Use a cheap A/V switch instead: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=396491

Great, thanks for the feedback.  There's one in stock at the RS down the street from my office - I'll pick it up tomorrow.

 

Also, for anyone else interested here is a corrected link (the original is missing the last digit):

 

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3964910

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