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post #706 of 2043

MSB's modules are their own.  In this internet age, they'd have to be.  Something like that (just containing other people's chips) would be a gigantic blow to their business, and it would invariably happen (I'm sure someones opened up say old generation modules by now.)

post #707 of 2043

I don't see how MSB products could be anything other than 100 billion percent amazing with such a serious man picture on their front page:

 

I mean, look at that. You know that means legit. Then they wrote a sweet poem for me. Mmmmmm....must...hear it.

 

The MSB digital system is the lowest jitter, most technically advanced, most musical playback system in the world today! 
You must hear it to believe it.


Edited by hans030390 - 3/4/14 at 6:00am
post #708 of 2043
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Originally Posted by hans030390 View Post
 

I don't see how MSB products could be anything other than 100 billion percent amazing with such a serious man picture on their front page:

 

I mean, look at that. You know that means legit. Then they wrote a sweet poem for me. Mmmmmm....must...hear it.

 

The MSB digital system is the lowest jitter, most technically advanced, most musical playback system in the world today! 
You must hear it to believe it.

 

You can definitely tell that this man's brain is made of a thousand 0.01% custom-made matched pairs of resistors.

post #709 of 2043

it looks like he is giving me the evil eye lol. that is one serious man.

 

about the teac. I think he just dismissed it for some reason and did not really put it through it's paces.stock it is fantastic even if it was $2,500 I say. fully modded out it is seriously good. right now I am listening to two systems. a dedicated listening room that includes the msb. my bedrrom has the teac. sure, my bedroom system is not as good as the one downstairs but I am not disappointed. I tried at least as many dacs as purrin and settled on these two for now. even modded, price wise the teac is the very least expensive component in that system. I think the modded teac is better than it's esoteric brother. come to think of it I really just need a esoteric face plate for the thing! I think this is a scenario where the low price may dissuade people. if I was not handy I would just order a modded one. you cannot do better for 5x the $1,600 asking prices. says i.

post #710 of 2043

Are the ES9018 and 9016 pin compatible, that is could one swap them out without other circuit changes?

post #711 of 2043
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mowglycdb View Post
 

Purrin,

 

  We did some ABX tests in chile  with the  SE outputs of the following combos:

 

1. Master 7  + Master 8

2. NFB-1.32 + NFB-6

3. ODAC+O2

 

We couldn't find diference at all with this tiny ABX box, is there something that could be happening that I can't tell appart any of them?

 

I'm sure there are diferences while listening to them separately, but I can't measure it

 

In that case, I would highly recommend the ODAC+O2. Not being able to hear a difference is a blessing. And I'm not being mean-spirited or sarcastic either. Other factors as headphones or speakers or recordings may also have an effect on this test.


Edited by purrin - 3/4/14 at 7:48am
post #712 of 2043
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In that case, I would highly recommend the ODAC+O2. Not being able to hear a difference is a blessing. And I'm not being mean-spirited or sarcastic either.

 

Lol, the Master-7 + Master-8 is mine. I think the ABX is doing something to the impedance output and to the sound signature, because I'm sure that NFB-1.32 has a different sound signature than the Master-7

post #713 of 2043
Thread Starter 

Well, it could be fatigue. I'm able to ABX identify MP3-128 and FLAC consistently when my ears are fresh, but after 10-20 trials, I start to lose it. The other thing you could do is just try living with the ODAC+O2 for an extended period of time and see how that works for you. Long term comparison is just as if not more valid than quick ABX.

post #714 of 2043

Yeah, I think just as you about it,  we were testing it on revealing headphones,  LCD-3  and HE-6

 

To test the three equipments we used a little ABX box that has 5  1/8  inputs and one 1/8 output.  So I think that box altered the sound in some way.


Edited by mowglycdb - 3/4/14 at 7:56am
post #715 of 2043
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by fengwei007 View Post


It's either your UD501 a defect one, or we have very different music taste. And to be honesty, no matter how much you don't like the TEAC, claim it as POS made your whole thread meaningless to me.

 

I think it's obvious we have very different sonic priorities. I don't like most of the sources (at least the ones that I have heard) in your sig: Herus, iPhone5, HM-901, UD-501, etc. So I would agree with you that this thread is probably meaningless to you and that you should seek elsewhere for information.

 

I've always said, DAC preference can be a very personal thing, and if none of this jives, then ignore everything I have to say going backwards and forwards.


Edited by purrin - 3/4/14 at 8:04am
post #716 of 2043

im about to order the Gen2 usb board for my Gungnir, to those that swapped out is it fairly easy to do?

post #717 of 2043
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Originally Posted by fengwei007 View Post


It's either your UD501 a defect one, or we have very different music taste. And to be honesty, no matter how much you don't like the TEAC, claim it as POS made your whole thread meaningless to me.

Thanks anyway for your effort. I'm going back to enjoy the POS.

 

It's funny, judging by how much Purrin hates the Teac UD-501, I assumed it was using his favorite chip - ESS Sabre.  I was surprised to find out that upon further investigation, it's actually using the highly regarded BurrBrown PCM1795:


http://audio.teac.com/product/ud-501/

post #718 of 2043
I used the TEAC for a year and was happy to replace it with an uberfrost. It was an upgrade. Putin's right in calling the TEAC a piece. I regret ditching my DAC2 for it due to the hype.
post #719 of 2043

The Benchmark? Seems to be well put together.

post #720 of 2043
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The Benchmark? Seems to be well put together.

 

Yep. I actually wish I still had it on hand to compare side by side with my X-Sabre.

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