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post #166 of 1712
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I doubt that. They likely have similar implementations. I know the X-Sabre has basically the same circuitry from the X-SPDIF incorporated.

Is the X-Sabre USB powering the cable with filtered Class A power? Most units require the 5v rails from the PC side, not the DA8 though. Just sayin...

post #167 of 1712
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Is the X-Sabre USB powering the cable with filtered Class A power? Most units require the 5v rails from the PC side, not the DA8 though. Just sayin...


X-Sabre doesn't need that too..

post #168 of 1712
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X-Sabre doesn't need that too..

Well, it's pretty clear that clean power for the USB is making a difference in these rankings. Why else would all these regulators be selling if there wasn't an improvement? Which begs the question, why doesn't the X-Sabre "need that too"?

post #169 of 1712
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Well, it's pretty clear that clean power for the USB is making a difference in these rankings. Why else would all these regulators be selling if there wasn't an improvement? Which begs the question, why doesn't the X-Sabre "need that too"?

Well, in your words, pin1 & pin4

post #170 of 1712
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Originally Posted by kn19h7 View Post
 

Well, in your words, pin1 & pin4

That's a bit vague, can you elaborate?

post #171 of 1712
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That's a bit vague, can you elaborate?

Orz I thought I was clear enough..

 

I also taped pin1&4 of the usb cable connecting pc and x-sabre.

post #172 of 1712
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Orz I thought I was clear enough..

 

I also taped pin1&4 of the usb cable connecting pc and x-sabre.

So the X-Sabre can power the cable then? Good on them. Do you notice a difference that way? I certainly do, along with Project86 and a few others.


Edited by brunk - 12/15/13 at 11:50am
post #173 of 1712
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So the X-Sabre can power the cable then? Good on them. Do you notice a difference that way? I certainly do, along with Project86 and a few others.


Never bothered to do a back-and-forth comparison actually, I just think it shouldn't be bad to reduce possible noise and ground problems..

post #174 of 1712
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On the stock HD800: personally, I wouldn't touch it on any DAC or any DAC/amp combo. It's just too bright and the 6k peak gives it a glare and hardness which does not gel well with 40% of the recordings I listen to. And no, this is not the fault of the recordings.
Yes, some of the recordings are of marginal quality, but they still sound within the threshold of acceptability on my speakers (laid back sounding), my desktop monitors (slightly bass light, slightly bright), and my UERMs (similar to desktop). I'm only saying this because I've noted people like to blame "bad" recordings and think the HD800 is god's gift to mankind when it's really a german toilet, which is not necessarily a bad thing.
With DACs, I prefer a more dynamic sound where the attacks aren't blunted. In fact, this one of the top priorities of mine. The stock HD800s are likely to sound especially bad with any DAC listed from A to C, with the exception of the Hilo which is laid back macrodynamics / attack wis

 

when you say stock do you mean without the mod? I have to disagree with you though - the hd800 sounds great on the few amps and DACs that i tried it with. its the best headphone ive heard. the amps i have heard it on are HDVD600/800 and WA2 some DIY ss and tube builds - the DACS are - RDAC/NAD m51 and the Dac in the HDVD 800, also heard it with john kenny dac.  

post #175 of 1712

Do any of these DACs support USB OTG, as discussed in this thread with half-a-million views:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs

post #176 of 1712
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we are not sure about new PWD2 units as one we had sounded very different. 

 

Does anyone know what a new PWD2 sounds like with the latest firmware? Is it really that much different from previous versions?

 

 

I'm looking into this DAC but it's hard to get an idea of what it sounds like with all these FW shenanigans :confused_face_2:

post #177 of 1712

^I'll have my PWD2 at the Bay Area Meet this February with EML 300B Solid Plates, TSBGRP, and FW 2.4.3.

 

People that know the PWD and the BA can post impressions.

 

With the PX4 tubes I prefer the 2.0.2 firmware, with the EML 300B Solid Plates I prefer 2.4.3.  

 

I was not a fan of 2.2.0 with the mods I use on my HD800. (Though I may eventually add some more material. :o)

 

Look at it as having more tuning options?  The difference in some of the firmware versions is greater than the difference between the filters.

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post #178 of 1712
Firmware is sort of like tuberolling. Find the one you like and never change it, except firmware doesn't burn out after 5000-15000 hours wink.gif
post #179 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

Firmware is sort of like tuberolling. Find the one you like and never change it, except firmware doesn't burn out after 5000-15000 hours wink.gif


I disagree with you on the firmware burn out. Chips can fail at any time. Anyone old enough to remember the WISE terminals, might also remember the firmware failure issues.

post #180 of 1712
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^I'll have my PWD2 at the Bay Area Meet this February with EML 300B Solid Plates, TSBGRP, and FW 2.4.3.

 

People that know the PWD and the BA can post impressions.

 

With the PX4 tubes I prefer the 2.0.2 firmware, with the EML 300B Solid Plates I prefer 2.4.3.  

 

I was not a fan of 2.2.0 with the mods I use on my HD800. (Though I may eventually add some more material. :o)

 

Look at it as having more tuning options?  The difference in some of the firmware versions is greater than the difference between the filters.

 

So firmware rolling is the new tube rolling *scribbles notes*.  

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