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On a related note, has anyone compared the Schiit Wryd to the Berkeley Alpha USB? Purrin? :¬)

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Thx for the suggestion, the leckerton did seem perfect up to "usb limited to 16/48" ... thats a bit too little for anno 2015.

 

Why? It's not like any of these portable amps are resolving enough to let you hear the difference between 16 and 18bit material, and anything beyond 44.1kHz can't be heard anyways (assuming we are working from the same master).

 

 

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On a related note, has anyone compared the Schiit Wryd to the Berkeley Alpha USB? Purrin? :¬)

 

Different devices and not comparable. Wyrd doesn't convert USB to SPDIF like Alpha. Wyrd is only USB to USB - it's not a converter, it's a USB decrapifier.

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Different devices and not comparable. Wyrd doesn't convert USB to SPDIF like Alpha. Wyrd is only USB to USB - it's not a converter, it's a USB decrapifier.

 

A slight oversight on my part there, thanks.

 

The Wyrd seems worth a pop. A lot cheaper than a premium USB cable.

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RSA products always had a bit of a premium pricing on them, and with increasing competition especially from the cheaper Asian market most of the popular names in portable amps from a couple years back are dwindling.
yeah, when I got into this hobby 12 years ago the big names were Meier and RSA and then a lot of smaller DIY outfits. my gear bCk then comprised of stuff from larocco and other gear. who remembers how good the PINT and other amps were? yes, gear today is better and more professional looking, but RSA and Meier and a bunch of other folk did a whole lot to get this hobby going in the 90s and early 2000s.
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Meier's still doing ok. He's working on reducing amplifier intermodulation distortion right now.
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On a related note, has anyone compared the Schiit Wryd to the Berkeley Alpha USB? Purrin? :¬)

 

I believe this is the natural competition for the Wyrd, unless the term 'decrapifier' encompasses something beyond what iFi claims their iPurifier does. 

 

http://www.hdphonic.com/en/hardware/ifi-ipurifier/

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I think the uptone audio regen is a more comparable product.

The iFi looks more like an usb filter than a regenerator. Could be good though.
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On a related note, has anyone compared the Schiit Wryd to the Berkeley Alpha USB? Purrin? :¬)

I believe this is the natural competition for the Wyrd, unless the term 'decrapifier' encompasses something beyond what iFi claims their iPurifier does. 

http://www.hdphonic.com/en/hardware/ifi-ipurifier/
It doesn't appear to have a data reclocker or provide independent power for the USB DAC, so I don't see a lot of similarity (other than the function of adding clean seperation from the computer's USB).
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So here is my dilemma, I want to try a new DAC sound signature, but I'm worried about the hashy Sabre DACs. They really just don't sound that good from what I have heard and read. Great at resolution, but very rarely do I ever hear them being called musical. Sabre suggestions are welcome, but certainly not cold implementations. I value ubber resolution less than listen-ability. Currently I still like my Gungnir, but after two years I have decided I need a new sound signature. I don't want to do a side-grade, and I'm willing to spend about $1000 - $1400 for a new DAC. I was tempted to stretch for the Yggy, but at $3000US, plus shipping, plus duties, plus taxes, well, it becomes $4000 Canadian very quickly so I need another option.

 

I have a line on an Audio GD Master 7, which would be great, but it doesn't have the USB which requires I sink in at least $500 more simply to connect it so that is feeling hard to swallow on top of the $1800 for the DAC.

 

Ideally there would be a DAC in my price range that would be able to improve on the resolution ability of the Gungnir, yet remain musical and not be overly analytical. I could be wrong, but it seems that most Sabre implementations are very detailed focused, and that in my limited experience results in elements being dissected out of the music while the overall music suffers and becomes sterile sounding. Perhaps there is a Sabre DAC that isn't like this? I'm open to suggestions for a standalone DAC, no amplifier section, and it should be fully balanced. Maybe I want to much for too little?

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So here is my dilemma, I want to try a new DAC sound signature, but I'm worried about the hashy Sabre DACs. They really just don't sound that good from what I have heard and read. Great at resolution, but very rarely do I ever hear them being called musical. Sabre suggestions are welcome, but certainly not cold implementations. I value ubber resolution less than listen-ability. Currently I still like my Gungnir, but after two years I have decided I need a new sound signature. I don't want to do a side-grade, and I'm willing to spend about $1000 - $1400 for a new DAC. I was tempted to stretch for the Yggy, but at $3000US, plus shipping, plus duties, plus taxes, well, it becomes $4000 Canadian very quickly so I need another option.

 

I have a line on an Audio GD Master 7, which would be great, but it doesn't have the USB which requires I sink in at least $500 more simply to connect it so that is feeling hard to swallow on top of the $1800 for the DAC.

 

Ideally there would be a DAC in my price range that would be able to improve on the resolution ability of the Gungnir, yet remain musical and not be overly analytical. I could be wrong, but it seems that most Sabre implementations are very detailed focused, and that in my limited experience results in elements being dissected out of the music while the overall music suffers and becomes sterile sounding. Perhaps there is a Sabre DAC that isn't like this? I'm open to suggestions for a standalone DAC, no amplifier section, and it should be fully balanced. Maybe I want to much for too little?

I've been running a PWD mk1-2 for a few years now and I suggest a look see.

 

Yes they are finicky and selecting the 'best' s/w for your needs will take some time, but it does have 'significant' resolution and inner detail and can sound wonderful.

 

And I suspect they will be coming up on the used market soon after Jggy appears.

Just a thought… :atsmile:

 

 

JJ

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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post
 

So here is my dilemma, I want to try a new DAC sound signature, but I'm worried about the hashy Sabre DACs. They really just don't sound that good from what I have heard and read. Great at resolution, but very rarely do I ever hear them being called musical. Sabre suggestions are welcome, but certainly not cold implementations. I value ubber resolution less than listen-ability. Currently I still like my Gungnir, but after two years I have decided I need a new sound signature. I don't want to do a side-grade, and I'm willing to spend about $1000 - $1400 for a new DAC. I was tempted to stretch for the Yggy, but at $3000US, plus shipping, plus duties, plus taxes, well, it becomes $4000 Canadian very quickly so I need another option.

 

I have a line on an Audio GD Master 7, which would be great, but it doesn't have the USB which requires I sink in at least $500 more simply to connect it so that is feeling hard to swallow on top of the $1800 for the DAC.

 

Ideally there would be a DAC in my price range that would be able to improve on the resolution ability of the Gungnir, yet remain musical and not be overly analytical. I could be wrong, but it seems that most Sabre implementations are very detailed focused, and that in my limited experience results in elements being dissected out of the music while the overall music suffers and becomes sterile sounding. Perhaps there is a Sabre DAC that isn't like this? I'm open to suggestions for a standalone DAC, no amplifier section, and it should be fully balanced. Maybe I want to much for too little?

Look on the bright side, at the rate the Canadian dollar is falling, the $4000 Yggy becomes $5000 in a year, netting you a gain of $1000 Canadian.

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Look on the bright side, at the rate the Canadian dollar is falling, the $4000 Yggy becomes $5000 in a year, netting you a gain of $1000 Canadian.


If only that were true! The second you buy the DAC it drops 20% in value when it comes to actually selling it if you need to so no investment potential there! I know you were joking. Just two years ago the Canadian dollar was higher than the US dollar, those were good days up here, good days indeed.

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Anybody here tried the Questyle DAC? Frankly I couldn't care less about DSD and sadly it supports DSD which is a waste of circuitry for me anyway.

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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post
 

So here is my dilemma, I want to try a new DAC sound signature, but I'm worried about the hashy Sabre DACs. They really just don't sound that good from what I have heard and read. Great at resolution, but very rarely do I ever hear them being called musical. Sabre suggestions are welcome, but certainly not cold implementations. I value ubber resolution less than listen-ability. Currently I still like my Gungnir, but after two years I have decided I need a new sound signature. I don't want to do a side-grade, and I'm willing to spend about $1000 - $1400 for a new DAC. I was tempted to stretch for the Yggy, but at $3000US, plus shipping, plus duties, plus taxes, well, it becomes $4000 Canadian very quickly so I need another option.

 

I have a line on an Audio GD Master 7, which would be great, but it doesn't have the USB which requires I sink in at least $500 more simply to connect it so that is feeling hard to swallow on top of the $1800 for the DAC.

 

Ideally there would be a DAC in my price range that would be able to improve on the resolution ability of the Gungnir, yet remain musical and not be overly analytical. I could be wrong, but it seems that most Sabre implementations are very detailed focused, and that in my limited experience results in elements being dissected out of the music while the overall music suffers and becomes sterile sounding. Perhaps there is a Sabre DAC that isn't like this? I'm open to suggestions for a standalone DAC, no amplifier section, and it should be fully balanced. Maybe I want to much for too little?

 

OK - you'll forgive me if I've never quite understood the Canadian perspective on this. 

 

1. The projected sticker on the Yggy is 2300USD - somewhere in the vicinity of 2880 CAD. 

2, Is shipping really that exorbitant from the US to Canada ? I realise that both are very big countries, but you should be able to get an estimate using the Rag as your guinea pig : same dimensions, similar weight

 

This site gave me a duty amount of 144CAD based on the 2880 figure for 'DVD / Blu-ray Players' (the closest I could find to any form of audio component):

 

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/dte-acl/est-cal-eng.html

 

Obviously, I have no idea which province you live in, but you're still well short of 4000CAD by my calculations. I accept that its easy for me to spend your money, and I'm in a similar position here - I just wonder if you've thought this through. Everything you claim to want from a DAC seems to be precisely what purrin is claiming for Yggy - spending 1500-2000 CAD on another DAC will be a false economy if you are no happier with your choice 6 months from now. We've all been there - I definitely went down that road with headphone amps till I bit the bullet and shelled out for a Taurus - and it's a road I dont like to see others travel. 


Edited by estreeter - 3/23/15 at 8:43pm
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Does anyone have some idea on Sonore exD DSD DAC?

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