Originally Posted by iambrian81
I think audio equipment is limited by the very physic of the equipment.
So right now, I have the monoprice 8320 for in-ear and DT990 pro for over the ear. My friend also brought the in-ear Hifi-man RE-400, one of the highest rated for in-ear with the score of 9/10 by joker.
When I compare the monoprice to hifiman, initially, the sound from hifi man was clearer. However, after I played around with the EQ, the monoprice sound JUST as clear as the hifiman. I even have my friend tested both in-ear and he cannot tell the different. I think in every audio equipment, there's a sweet spot and if you go over that sweet spot, there's a HUGE diminishing return.
The sweet spot for in-ear imo is 7 bucks. Monoprice, with the right eq setting will sound equal to most high end in-ear. The limitation of monoprice is also the limitation of the very nature of in-ear itself.
In-ear simply cannot pump out the same level of bass as over the ear headphone. In-ear sounds are quite thin and not quite as full as over the year. Finally, in-ear are totally incapable of producing the same level of soundstage as my dt990. I have not hear any 1,000 dollar in-ear, but i think it's impossible for any in-ear to produce the same level of soundstage as my dt990 pro. It's just physic.
I think the sweet spot for over the year is around 100-200 bucks. Anymore than that then you get HUGE diminishing return. If you want a huge improvement in audio quality, then you need professional floor speakers imo.
Base on what you say Pianist, it seem that the sweet spot for floor speakers are around 600-3000k. A 1,000 dolllars speakers setup will probably destroy any headphones that cost 1,000-3,000 dollars easily.
What do you think of my opinion?
I think that comparing Speakers to headphones is a waste of time. Like Hooster said and I agree 100%, it really depends.
I get more detail and many other things from my $140 headphones than a high end $4,000 sound system. But, my 4K home theater has it's own benefits. Sub that does great, soundstage, etc.
Problem with speakers is that before the sound can reach your ears, it gets destroyed by all the things such as outside noise, room configuration, sound bounce, etc, etc. With headphones, you avoid all of those things and your sound is more pure. I don;t think that it ever has to be one or the other.
Now, back to the diminishing return .... I think the following
Yes.... once you go from in-ear ones to about $200 well made headphones, ...that is the biggest change you'll notice. Anything beyond is not as significant.
2) Home speakers: / Theater
Once you go from TV speakers to stand alone, even cheap HTiB system at $700 or so ... huge change.
Upgrading from $700 HTiB to $3,000 speakers ... noticeable difference but less than TV speakers to HTiB. Going from 3K system to 6K? .... even less
3) Plasma TV / LED / LCD etc... 4K
Once you went to Plasma/LED/LCD from your regular TV .. that was a major change.
Upgrading from 720p to 1080p, or 120Hz to 260Hz or something ... even less noticeable.
4) Buying a Home Theater subwoofer ..... any of them will be a huge return compared to not having one.
I bought one of the best Subs out there for $1,000. Believe me, I would have been fine probably with one at half the price.
But ... having that extra UMPH that came with the $1,000 sub if not with sound alone but with pride of owning a monster made it all worthwhile.
5) Buying a photo camera.
Going from point and shoot to an SLR .... major return.
Upgrading a $600 SLR to a $1,200 SLR .... not that big of a deal.
Bottom line is .... going from Not having to Having is major. All the rest is not as major :-)