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is audeze a bad idea for classical music?

post #1 of 17
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I got my heart set on LCD3. But I never heard of it myself and it is almost impossible to audit one where Im living.

 

I read reviews but quite don't get it.

 

Soundstage and detail are pivotal for classical but like I said above it is impossible to audit.

 

I will hook it up to a decent setup.

 

So will LCD 3 good for large orchestral music? Specifically symphonies, concerti, choral works?

post #2 of 17
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If LCD isn't for classical music then which headphone do you suggest/recommend?

post #3 of 17

Orthos aren't that spacious sounding compared to dynamic headphones. I have tried most of the orthos except the newer audezes and they don't have that large soundstages which imo is their only problem. The difference isn't minute either, it is pretty much night and day difference.

post #4 of 17
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So it's the ortho thats the problem. Thank you for'the input
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by KamijoIsMyHero View Post
 

Orthos aren't that spacious sounding compared to dynamic headphones. I have tried most of the orthos except the newer audezes and they don't have that large soundstages which imo is their only problem. The difference isn't minute either, it is pretty much night and day difference.

 

That's not the orthodynamic sound though, merely your limited experience of it.

 

In fact, as listen to the Vänskä version of Beethoven 9th, if I close my eyes and relax, if I listen for it, I can picture the orchestra in front of me, pointing in the direction of specific instruments in the large ensemble. It's an initimate music experience (close to the orchestra), but it not a mess, merely a front seat, in front of a well-defined stage.

 

That's through a classic vintage orthodynamic (The Magnat RT-10).

post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
What do you suggest for a strong classical music headphone?
post #7 of 17

Stax are your best bet for classical music.

post #8 of 17

I can't speak about Stax or the LCD-3, but the LCD-2 is congested. Detailed but congested and aparently the LCD-3 shares a common signature, nevertheless any pair of comfortable headphones can bring enjoyment listening your favorite tracks. Keep in mind the LCD-3 is picky (like others pointed around here) concerning amps. 

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That's not the orthodynamic sound though, merely your limited experience of it.

In fact, as listen to the Vänskä version of Beethoven 9th, if I close my eyes and relax, if I listen for it, I can picture the orchestra in front of me, pointing in the direction of specific instruments in the large ensemble. It's an initimate music experience (close to the orchestra), but it not a mess, merely a front seat, in front of a well-defined stage.

That's through a classic vintage orthodynamic (The Magnat RT-10).

Good for you, I have never heard of older orthos, just the newer ones
post #10 of 17
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Good for you, I have never heard of older orthos, just the newer ones

 

I recommend having a listen to the older varieties from the late 70s, early 80s, if you like the orthodynamic sound. They used to be quite common. There is some information in the orthodynamic roundup.

post #11 of 17
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I got my heart set on LCD3. But I never heard of it myself and it is almost impossible to audit one where Im living.

 

I read reviews but quite don't get it.

 

Soundstage and detail are pivotal for classical but like I said above it is impossible to audit.

 

I will hook it up to a decent setup.

 

So will LCD 3 good for large orchestral music? Specifically symphonies, concerti, choral works?

 

Soundstage, in a headphone world, simply has no bearing on reality (i.e., soundstage when at a concert) - sounds to the left, right and behind my head do not come close to what a live concert sounds like, no matter how wide or well-dispersed the instruments may be.   That's a lost battle and one that i have given up on.

 

As for the rest - I am a big fan of symphonic music, and the LCDs rock my world in a way no other headphone has come close to doing.    The music is meaty, has weight and body, and the cans do a great job of reproducing the power of an orchestra at full swing.  Pair it with a nice tube amp and it will absolutely come alive with a midrange to die for.   


Edited by vkalia - 12/5/13 at 10:59am
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by masteryd View Post
 

I got my heart set on LCD3. But I never heard of it myself and it is almost impossible to audit one where Im living.

 

I read reviews but quite don't get it.

 

Soundstage and detail are pivotal for classical but like I said above it is impossible to audit.

 

I will hook it up to a decent setup.

 

So will LCD 3 good for large orchestral music? Specifically symphonies, concerti, choral works?

 

I'd look into the LCD-X, they are seriously good with classical. 

post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by vkalia View Post
 

 

Soundstage, in a headphone world, simply has no bearing on reality (i.e., soundstage when at a concert) - sounds to the left, right and behind my head do not come close to what a live concert sounds like, no matter how wide or well-dispersed the instruments may be.   That's a lost battle and one that i have given up on.

 

As for the rest - I am a big fan of symphonic music, and the LCDs rock my world in a way no other headphone has come close to doing.    The music is meaty, has weight and body, and the cans do a great job of reproducing the power of an orchestra at full swing.  Pair it with a nice tube amp and it will absolutely come alive with a midrange to die for.   

 

Personally, I enjoy closing my eyes and feel the place of the musical performance, as if I was there, at a table in a club with the performers in front of me, on a stage of a live performance hearing the vastness of the space as the audience is cut in, or in a front-row chair listening to an orchestra hearing the sound of instruments emerge from different directions, all merging into a whole performance.

 

I do not find it a lost battle - far from it.

post #14 of 17

^^ Oh, I am not disagreeing about the joys of soundstage - it just that IMO, chasing soundstage in headphones is akin to polishing the metaphorical turd.    No headphone i've tried has ever come anywhere close to resembling a "real" soundstage thrown by 2 speakers, let alone a live concert.

post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by vkalia View Post
 

^^ Oh, I am not disagreeing about the joys of soundstage - it just that IMO, chasing soundstage in headphones is akin to polishing the metaphorical turd.    No headphone i've tried has ever come anywhere close to resembling a "real" soundstage thrown by 2 speakers, let alone a live concert.

 

That's where we disagree then.... I find that headphones can indeed re-create that stage - some headphones and setups do this better than others, and to me it adds a lot to my experience.

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