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post #196 of 745

Dang...I'd sell mine for that. 

 

Anyone interested? $600 shipped...lol

post #197 of 745
Missed the FedEx guy by 10 minutes. going to have to wait until Monday..... frown.gif
post #198 of 745
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Originally Posted by ArmAndHammer View Post
 

Dang...I'd sell mine for that. 

 

Anyone interested? $600 shipped...lol

PM'd lol no... just no lol

post #199 of 745

I got them now. Being driven from the Burson 160D.

 
First impressions using them with the default comfy pads is that they have more bass boom that the RS1i, but it feels imprecise and smoothed out over the frequencies. a little muddy down low. high frequencies and mids not as energetic and soundstage is less precise.
 
so, around 10 minutes later I put on the standard L cush bowls. Now we’re talking! this should be considered a mandatory installation to these cans considering they cost $400. the comfies make them sound a bit more like SR60s…
 
So, with the L cush pads, we get thinner but much better defined bass than with the comfies. I think the drivers are tuned for more bass than the RS1i - maybe a bigger hump around 100 Hz? Bass isn’t quite as tight as on the RS1i. There’s slightly more oomph on some tracks compared to the RS1i but a bit less detail. And the upper mids around 2K are a bit less shouty. so some loud female vocals might bite less on the Bushmills than the RS1i.
 
I’d also say that the treble on the RS1i is a bit peakier but that helps add to the sense of energy that the RS1i has - it’s one of the most energetic sounding Grados. The Bushmills are a bit more sedated. Maybe a bit more like the SR225 or RS2 in tone.
 
I find that soundstage and imaging is real close between the two when they both use bowls. The placement of instruments and size of instruments in space seem to be about the same when listening casually. The RS1 can sound slightly more open on some tracks but I think that’s just the higher treble emphasis fooling me into thing there’s more space.
 
I can't tell much of a difference at all when it comes to graininess to the sound or smoothness or details. they both seem to be on par here with the only differences being the tonality and not the quality. This is a bit different to my experience comparing the SR225 to the RS1i where the SR225 sounded a little rougher on some delicate vocal tracks. I don’t hear the same difference in quality with the Bushmills compared to the RS1i but maybe I’m just not listening to enough music that would make it obvious.
 
So this is really only after a couple hours of listening - all just first impressions. I really like them with bowls. They sound open and very much like the Grado sound that we expect, given the tonality differences we hear between all the headphones in the SR and RS lines. They are not tuned to sound like the much weightier PS500. That they come kinda close to the RS1i is pretty good, I’d say.
post #200 of 745
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post
 

I got them now. Being driven from the Burson 160D.

 
First impressions using them with the default comfy pads is that they have more bass boom that the RS1i, but it feels imprecise and smoothed out over the frequencies. a little muddy down low. high frequencies and mids not as energetic and soundstage is less precise.
 
so, around 10 minutes later I put on the standard L cush bowls. Now we’re talking! this should be considered a mandatory installation to these cans considering they cost $400. the comfies make them sound a bit more like SR60s…
 
So, with the L cush pads, we get thinner but much better defined bass than with the comfies. I think the drivers are tuned for more bass than the RS1i - maybe a bigger hump around 100 Hz? Bass isn’t quite as tight as on the RS1i. There’s slightly more oomph on some tracks compared to the RS1i but a bit less detail. And the upper mids around 2K are a bit less shouty. so some loud female vocals might bite less on the Bushmills than the RS1i.
 
I’d also say that the treble on the RS1i is a bit peakier but that helps add to the sense of energy that the RS1i has - it’s one of the most energetic sounding Grados. The Bushmills are a bit more sedated. Maybe a bit more like the SR225 or RS2 in tone.
 
I find that soundstage and imaging is real close between the two when they both use bowls. The placement of instruments and size of instruments in space seem to be about the same when listening casually. The RS1 can sound slightly more open on some tracks but I think that’s just the higher treble emphasis fooling me into thing there’s more space.
 
I can't tell much of a difference at all when it comes to graininess to the sound or smoothness or details. they both seem to be on par here with the only differences being the tonality and not the quality. This is a bit different to my experience comparing the SR225 to the RS1i where the SR225 sounded a little rougher on some delicate vocal tracks. I don’t hear the same difference in quality with the Bushmills compared to the RS1i but maybe I’m just not listening to enough music that would make it obvious.
 
So this is really only after a couple hours of listening - all just first impressions. I really like them with bowls. They sound open and very much like the Grado sound that we expect, given the tonality differences we hear between all the headphones in the SR and RS lines. They are not tuned to sound like the much weightier PS500. That they come kinda close to the RS1i is pretty good, I’d say.

have you heard or own the RS2. Can you put an arbitrary number on it to say how much the RS1 the bushmills are like how close they are say what 90% of RS1

post #201 of 745

I don’t feel comfortable putting a number value to how the Bushmill compares to the RS1. it’s got a slightly more downward tilted tone, it’s not quite as delicate in the high end but has pretty close - if not identical - levels of grain, details, and soundstage.

 

I owned an RS2 around 3 years ago. I can’t say anything about details or quality but I can say a little about the tone, which is all I did :)

post #202 of 745
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post
 

I don’t feel comfortable putting a number value to how the Bushmill compares to the RS1. it’s got a slightly more downward tilted tone, it’s not quite as delicate in the high end but has pretty close - if not identical - levels of grain, details, and soundstage.

 

I owned an RS2 around 3 years ago. I can’t say anything about details or quality but I can say a little about the tone, which is all I did :)

I am really glad that jumped on these when I did.  It sounds like these will fit in my collection nicely. Plus I will be auditioning the RS2 here soon so I will get to see how they compare to it.


Edited by lord_tris - 12/13/13 at 2:31pm
post #203 of 745

I used to own the MS2i's, and it sounds like you are describing their sound in some ways, by mentioning they are not as peaky as the RS1's and are tuned for more bass the like towards the  PS500, so maybe they are a mix of the 325/MS2 sound wise. Congratulations on them, enjoy!

post #204 of 745

You know i was thinking the exact same thing. I've never heard the Ms2's but own the Ms1 and MsPro and the sound signature certainly fits in being a more neutral Grado without the peaky high end. The price point would put it in MS2 territory too, and come to think of it i bet the Alessandro range is a small assembly line run in parallel to the main Grado line, perfect for making a small batch of limited edition models.

post #205 of 745

I’ve had the MS2 (loved them) but I think the difference is in the bass. I don’t remember the MS2 having a boost to the bass compared to the RS1. But the Bushmills do.

 

I think the treble peakiness does resemble the Alessandros, yeah. But the balance is a bit different because of the slight heft to the bass tuning on the Bushmills. And the default state of the bushmills with the comfies makes them seem even bassier and boomier out of the box. I think they are improved overall going to the bowls.

post #206 of 745
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 


 They will look great in that awesome Grado collection of yours.

 

Like you said, if you do not like them, you can sell them.

 

They may just sound too darn good to sell, also.

 

Funny thing is, it was never my intention to collect headphones. I bought my GS1000 when they first got out in 2006, and as much as I liked them for big venue recordings, I wanted another pair that would have a more intimate presentation for Jazz, Blues, and Female Vocals, I thought of buying RS1s, but then I came across my HP1000, wich I, ''practically stole'', according to Parbaked , :p and they ended up serving that purpose.

 

A few years later, I got curious about the PS1000, ended up liking and the rest is history. I had planned on selling my GS1000, they don't get much head time, but they're so light and comfortable, that I can't bring myself to part with them.

 

Regarding the Bushmills, well, like I said, I got caught up in all the frenzy. And like I said, it's a good thing I'm divorced, because I'm sure that these would have been the last straw.

post #207 of 745

Those with the Bushmills...any Grado honestly, you really need to give this a listen...AMAZING! Turn it up, close your eyes, get lost.

 

 

 


Edited by ArmAndHammer - 12/13/13 at 11:43pm
post #208 of 745

^^ Very Nice ^^

post #209 of 745
Will have a listen when they show up in a few days smily_headphones1.gif
Might have to have a listen on the p7s beforehand for comparison
post #210 of 745
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmAndHammer View Post
 

Those with the Bushmills...any Grado honestly, you really need to give this a listen...AMAZING! Turn it up, close your eyes, get lost.

 

 

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmAndHammer View Post
 

Those with the Bushmills...any Grado honestly, you really need to give this a listen...AMAZING! Turn it up, close your eyes, get lost.

 

 

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmAndHammer View Post
 

Those with the Bushmills...any Grado honestly, you really need to give this a listen...AMAZING! Turn it up, close your eyes, get lost.

 

 

 

Just had a listen with my 325is's, real nice!!!

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