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post #16 of 19
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I've only heard them on new pads in the shop - and still compared to neutral stuff like DT880 (sorry for hammering on about the same headphone - it's just an example) I still feel that's the kind of sound it presents.

 

Conversely, one who is indeed accustomed/adjusted to the HD600 would consider the DT880 a bright headphone and be put off by the comparatively forward treble presentation.

 

As a disclaimer, I do actually prefer the overall sound presentation of the HD600 over the DT880 - there is no hate for the Sennheiser here whatsoever. 

 

I actually encountered people who didn't like the new pads because they're too bright for them and not enough bass. Old pads for me brings out the micro flaws that ruin the sound for me. Overall, tonally it seems warmer, but if one really pays attention (which is no problem for me because when I listen to my reference system, I really just listen), the notes are unnatural. Bass seems to hit hard, but actually the lowest range is just too loud, the decay is kind of bloated already. High frequencies have a spike that seems disconnected from the midrange, which is warm, then you get a sharp cymbal note. Ouch.

 

The nice thing about the DT880, however limited experience with it, is that it puts the vocals a bit more forward. The HD600 (good pads of course), instead of "(too) warm" I perceive it more as "too flat," in terms of 2D staging but also the relative non-emphasis on anything (especially vs Grado for example). Overall however I preferred this "too flat" tonality, even with the soundstage considered, over a bunch of other headphones in its price range. The K701 was my second choice, but if the pads had that much to do with the HD600's sound, how much more earpads that are thicker on one side  and cost $30 more per pair? Didn't gamble and went for the HD600, which I've wanted ever since it came out while I was in high school. Unfortunately I got distracted by speakers along the way before I conceded I should build my own house first, or stick to headphones :tongue_smile:

post #17 of 19

Yes - I know what you mean with 'too flat' - some years ago when I was getting into Grados in a big way, I auditioned the HD600 for the first time and thought to myself "what is this flat boring nonsense?"

Compared to what my ears were used to with Grados, they were just lifeless and overly polite. 

Fortunately I prefer variety over picking a favourite sound signature, but my taste these days is leaning towards the dark side of neutral.

post #18 of 19
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Yes - I know what you mean with 'too flat' - some years ago when I was getting into Grados in a big way, I auditioned the HD600 for the first time and thought to myself "what is this flat boring nonsense?"

Compared to what my ears were used to with Grados, they were just lifeless and overly polite. 

Fortunately I prefer variety over picking a favourite sound signature, but my taste these days is leaning towards the dark side of neutral.

 

Curiously enough I actually preferred my HD600 and my old SR225 (also the rest of the prestige line) reversed from what other people like. For rock and metal (specifically, power and progressive, and any variant with classical music thrown in) I actually preferred the HD600 - instrument spacing and separation were better and I can hear everything without any one instrument hogging my attention; the SR225 et al by contrast mooshed them together and had too strong L-C-R (with gaps in-between), even with the cups pushed a bit forward so as not to have the drivers smack on my ear canal. For jazz however the more "raw" sound of Grado actually did better with them, sounding a lot like what I'd hear live in a jazz bistro. Forget the "smoky jazz lounge" (sic) Schiit uses to describe the Valhalla for a moment - what they're basically describing, for me, is a jazz lounge for older (richer) folk that I usually find in hotels over here (and frequently surprise some friend's Dad when I run into them); the jazz bistros I hung out in back in college play Ska or otherwise jazz with more trumpets, compared to smooth sax and piano stuff with a soft-voiced singer at the hotel lounge. 

post #19 of 19
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I think i'll just go with the DT800 instead

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