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post #1 of 11
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Dear audiophiles, thank you for reading this. I'm hoping someone can help me get the best experience out of my HD650's which I've had for a few years now.

 

I have been using my HD650's with great pleasure on my PC (powered by an Asus Xonar Essence STX - Yes, I know many prefer a DAC/AMP setup). I love listening to music (and gaming), and do so through various platforms. Unfortunately I haven't been spending much time on my PC for a while now, mostly because I don't have a PCdesk since i've moved to a new home.

 

Thus I feel i'm wasting the great potential of my HD650's which I could be using on other platforms that I use quite frequently. Unfortunately these other platforms can't properly power the HD650's on their own.

 

I'm hoping to set up my HD650's to be used with amongst others my:

 

Television

Nintendo Wii U

Playstation (3 and 4)

PsVITA

iPad

iPhone

 

I guess somehow my console's and TV's audio could be channeled/broadcasted through my PC/soundcard/HD650. I don't mind the extra energy required to have my PC on. Unfortunately however, I haven't the slightest clue on how to achieve this. If anyone has helpful advice in this regard I would be very happy.

 

Another solution would probably be hooking my headphone to a DAC/AMP and connect that to the various platforms. Again, I have no idea what I would need, what platforms such a set up would work with, and how I should connect anything.

 

Any help is appreciated!

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Originally Posted by Gush1917 View Post
 

Dear audiophiles, thank you for reading this. I'm hoping someone can help me get the best experience out of my HD650's which I've had for a few years now.

I have been using my HD650's with great pleasure on my PC (powered by an Asus Xonar Essence STX - Yes, I know many prefer a DAC/AMP setup). I love listening to music (and gaming), and do so through various platforms. Unfortunately I haven't been spending much time on my PC for a while now, mostly because I don't have a PCdesk since i've moved to a new home.

Thus I feel i'm wasting the great potential of my HD650's which I could be using on other platforms that I use quite frequently. Unfortunately these other platforms can't properly power the HD650's on their own.

I'm hoping to set up my HD650's to be used with amongst others my:

Television

Nintendo Wii U

Playstation (3 and 4)

PsVITA

iPad

iPhone

I guess somehow my console's and TV's audio could be channeled/broadcasted through my PC/soundcard/HD650. I don't mind the extra energy required to have my PC on. Unfortunately however, I haven't the slightest clue on how to achieve this. If anyone has helpful advice in this regard I would be very happy.

Another solution would probably be hooking my headphone to a DAC/AMP and connect that to the various platforms. Again, I have no idea what I would need, what platforms such a set up would work with, and how I should connect anything.

I guess your looking for something with a lot of different inputs (digital and analog) and can process gaming (surround sound) and music audio and can drive the 300-Ohm HD650s.

A A/V receiver might be able to handle all the different inputs required, offer surround sound processing and can drive the 300-Ohm headphones.

 

Yamaha (refurb, $299) RX-V671 A/V receiver (I own one).

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/YAMRXV671BL/YAMAHA-RX-V671-7.1-Channel-Network-AV-Receiver/1.html

post #4 of 11
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I guess your looking for something with a lot of different inputs (digital and analog) and can process gaming (surround sound) and music audio and can drive the 300-Ohm HD650s.

A A/V receiver might be able to handle all the different inputs required, offer surround sound processing and can drive the 300-Ohm headphones.

 

Yamaha (refurb, $299) RX-V671 A/V receiver (I own one).

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/YAMRXV671BL/YAMAHA-RX-V671-7.1-Channel-Network-AV-Receiver/1.html

 

Thank you for your advice. If I could bother you with a follow up question: How would this work set up wise. I.e.  how would I connect my devices with the A/V receiver. Does it require a lot of effort to set this up, and are the results satisfying?

 

Many thanks in advance!

post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by Gush1917 View Post
 

 

Thank you for your advice. If I could bother you with a follow up question: How would this work set up wise. I.e.  how would I connect my devices with the A/V receiver. Does it require a lot of effort to set this up, and are the results satisfying?

 

Many thanks in advance!

Connect everything possible with HDMI, optical/coaxial is second best.

Use the RCA input on the Yamaha for the phone and pad.

post #6 of 11
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Thank you for your helpful advice in this regard, which I happily followed. Currently im looking to expand my setup with a set of speakers. Again, I have no idea what I should buy. Also, I haven't the slighest clue if I should aim for surround, or stereo speakers. Any ideas?

post #7 of 11

It depends on budget. I'd recommend buying a nice pair of stereo speakers, and then expanding the setup later.

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Between 150-300 euros. Any suggestions? Like I said, I have no clue as to what I should buy in this jungle of product availability.

 

Just so I can learn more on this subject, why do you suggest stereo over surround?

 

Thanks!

post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by Gush1917 View Post
 

Between 150-300 euros. Any suggestions? Like I said, I have no clue as to what I should buy in this jungle of product availability.

 

Just so I can learn more on this subject, why do you suggest stereo over surround?

 

Thanks!

Simply because of budget. If you want 5 speakers for $300 each speaker will be $60. If you get 2 you have $150 per speaker.

post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 

Ok. So now I have everything (TV, Cablebox, WII U, PS4) except for my PC (with Xonar Essence STX audio card) connected to the receivers. So basiclly all HDMI inputs go to the receiver, and from the receiver to my TV. Everything works fine, and i'm very content with the results. The Receiver powers my HD650 satisfactory, albeit not as good as the Xonar. Now my following question is this:

 

How do I set up my PC when i want to use the speakers. Should I connect my GPU to the receiver, and let it output my PC audio to the speakers in this way (and thus ignoring my xonar audio card). Or would it be more benificial (sound quality wise) to keep my GPU connected to the TV directly, and connect my Xonar Essence to the receiver through SPDIF (or other means) instead? Or should I be connecting my mobo to the receiver?

 

With other words, If i were to play a movie from my PC, would I get the best audio if I broadcast it through my Xonar-> Receiver -> Speaker or GPU -> Receiver -> Speaker. Or whatever other combination that is possible. I would think the latter scenario would me most logical since the Xonar Essence is primarily meant to broadcast stereo sound, so I figure the receiver is better at decoding this information to 5.0 speakers.

post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by Gush1917 View Post
 

Ok. So now I have everything (TV, Cablebox, WII U, PS4) except for my PC (with Xonar Essence STX audio card) connected to the receivers. So basiclly all HDMI inputs go to the receiver, and from the receiver to my TV. Everything works fine, and i'm very content with the results. The Receiver powers my HD650 satisfactory, albeit not as good as the Xonar. Now my following question is this:

 

How do I set up my PC when i want to use the speakers. Should I connect my GPU to the receiver, and let it output my PC audio to the speakers in this way (and thus ignoring my xonar audio card). Or would it be more benificial (sound quality wise) to keep my GPU connected to the TV directly, and connect my Xonar Essence to the receiver through SPDIF (or other means) instead? Or should I be connecting my mobo to the receiver?

 

With other words, If i were to play a movie from my PC, would I get the best audio if I broadcast it through my Xonar-> Receiver -> Speaker or GPU -> Receiver -> Speaker. Or whatever other combination that is possible. I would think the latter scenario would me most logical since the Xonar Essence is primarily meant to broadcast stereo sound, so I figure the receiver is better at decoding this information to 5.0 speakers.


If you use HDMI you are sending lossless digital audio to the receiver and using the DAC and amp in the receiver. This is probably the best option but it bypasses the xonar so if you wanted to use a feature on the card (e.g. EQ, virtual surround sound) you can't.

Using optical from the xonar (I assume it has it) would send digital audio to the receiver and you could use settings on the card, but optical is limited to lossless stereo or compressed (via dolby or DTS) 5.1.

Either way you're using the DAC in the receiver. The only way to use the DAC in the xonar would be to use analogue outputs, but most receivers these days won't have analogue inputs for surround.

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