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Listenin to this right now

 

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Listenin to this right now

 

 

 

This is what I'm listening to at this moment:

 

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Anyone pretending to get on the jazz train should familiarize themselves. This is a seminal modern jazz album from one of the greatest.

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Anyone pretending to get on the jazz train should familiarize themselves. This is a seminal modern jazz album from one of the greatest.

What do you mean by - "pretending to get on the jazz train", have we upset you in some way? 

 

I have only spent time with a handful of Davis recording  -  "kind of blue", "Bags groove", "porgy and bess", "sketches of spain", "sorcerer" and "nefertiti". I will be sure to give this one a go. 


Edited by magiccabbage - 4/7/14 at 4:29am
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In a very similar vein, if not the exact same vein, try Marcus Roberts 1990 release "Deep In the Shed"

 

 

and the opening track:

 

As always - enjoy!

I finally got around to Roberts, I haven'y yet touched on "deep in the shed" but i got "the truth be spoken here" - its brilliant, perfect for me. I had no idea that he wrote the song "The Arrival" it was my favorite track on Wyntons "live a the village vanguard". Thanks for directing me towards him. 

 

 

 

Then I found out that he did an album with Bela Fleck so i will have to check that out, Bela is one of the reasons why i listen to jazz today. ¬

 

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I have only spent time with a handful of Davis recording  -  "kind of blue", "Bags groove", "porgy and bess", "sketches of spain", "sorcerer" and "nefertiti". I will be sure to give this one a go. 

You have chosen wisely, they are some of his finest performances.
The last three are particularly outstanding.
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On the subject of both jazz on broadcast radio/internet radio and main topic of the this thread, WKCR-FM, the radio station of Columbia University in New York City, needs to be mentioned. While WKCR does not broadcast jazz full time it does offer 4 jazz programs each week day and several more jazz shows each weekend. In addition WKCR features 13 day long (as in 24 hours) and one three day long birthday broadcasts throughout the year. http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/wkcr/content/special-programming

 

 

As you can see the month of April has three day long birthday broadcasts scheduled. Each birthday broadcast features tons of music and lots of history and information about the artist being celebrated including interviews and other special features.

 

April 7: Billie Holiday (b. April 7, 1915; d. July 17, 1959)

 

 

Here are the links for the internet streams:

 

mp3 stream: http://kanga.college.columbia.edu:8000/listen.pls

 

RealAudio stream: http://kanga.college.columbia.edu/ramgen/broadcast/wkcr.rm

 

 

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Anyone pretending to get on the jazz train should familiarize themselves. This is a seminal modern jazz album from one of the greatest.

Hi Joe,

 

I'd like to know - are you listening to the birthday broadcast of the great Billie Holiday (as I pointed out would be on all day today, April 7th and quoted above to save you some time) or you just driving that "wanna be" jazz train?

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Hi Joe,

I'd like to know - are you listening to the birthday broadcast of the great Billie Holiday (as I pointed out would be on all day today, April 7th and quoted above to save you some time) or you just driving that "wanna be" jazz train?

I can't tell by your tone whether you're taking a jab at me, but to answer your question, no I am not listening to the broadcast. Although if it will be archived online somewhere I may check it out later.

Not sure what thy has to do with my "train" post...
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I can't tell by your tone whether you're taking a jab at me, but to answer your question, no I am not listening to the broadcast. Although if it will be archived online somewhere I may check it out later.

Not sure what thy has to do with my "train" post...

and I'm not sure what you meant by your "pretending to get on the jazz train" post - were you taking a Jab at us "pretending" to like jazz. Why would anyone pretend to like jazz? 

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I can't tell by your tone whether you're taking a jab at me, but to answer your question, no I am not listening to the broadcast. Although if it will be archived online somewhere I may check it out later.

Not sure what thy has to do with my "train" post...

 

 

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and I'm not sure what you meant by your "pretending to get on the jazz train" post - were you taking a Jab at us "pretending" to like jazz. Why would anyone pretend to like jazz? 

Okay guys let's try to clear things up a bit.

 

First yes, Joe, I was taking a little swipe at you since you felt the need to trumpet your jazz credentials with your own little swipe. And yes, Mr. Cabbage, there are plenty of people who just pretend to like jazz since sometimes and in some circles liking jazz carries a certain air of sophistication. What else can explain all those so called "Jazz Festivals" that take place every year and feature, at best, one or two jazz musicians or groups and countless soul, R&B, pop, rock and other musicians and groups. There must be something about the word "jazz" that makes it the word of choice even when there is really little or no jazz actually involved. Add in the fact, that I've mentioned previously, that lots of music that isn't quite pop or rock or progressive rock or whatever is simply labeled "jazz" because you know, if something is the least bit adventurous it must be jazz.

 

As for the Billie Holiday, I just figured since every ******* new female wanna be jazz vocalist who come along IS ALWAYS said to be the next Billie Holiday or some such claptrap that today everyone reading this thread has the chance to actually listen to the one and only and totally original Billie Holiday (and hear why all those proclamations of "the next Billie Holiday" are completely wrong and totally worthless).

 

As you would know if you've been following this thread from the beginning I've done my best to try to avoid being negative (and I do apologize Joe for that little slip up) and focus on the positive. Plus I've been posting lots of what I feel is really good/great jazz that almost never gets mentioned on these types of "jazz recommendation" threads.

 

So let's all tune into the Billie Holiday birthday broadcast and just enjoy all the great music.

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and I'm not sure what you meant by your "pretending to get on the jazz train" post - were you taking a Jab at us "pretending" to like jazz. Why would anyone pretend to like jazz? 

 

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Okay guys let's try to clear things up a bit.

 

First yes, Joe, I was taking a little swipe at you since you felt the need to trumpet your jazz credentials with your own little swipe. 

Sorry gentlemen, I didn't mean a swipe or jab. I just meant to imply that the record I posted was a seminal record and that hopefully anyone with developing an appreciation of (modern) jazz should at least hear it once. 

 

My tone was misconstrued!

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Sorry gentlemen, I didn't mean a swipe or jab. I just meant to imply that the record I posted was a seminal record and that hopefully anyone with developing an appreciation of (modern) jazz should at least hear it once. 

 

My tone was misconstrued!

No problem, no offense taken. 

 

I am listening to that Cecile Mclorin Salvant, album ¬ 

 

 

I wasn't expecting it to be as good as it is, I really like the guitar player she got in -  there are 2 tracks on the album with just her and the guitar player that are lovely, here is one ¬

 

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Okay guys let's try to clear things up a bit.

 

First yes, Joe, I was taking a little swipe at you since you felt the need to trumpet your jazz credentials with your own little swipe. And yes, Mr. Cabbage, there are plenty of people who just pretend to like jazz since sometimes and in some circles liking jazz carries a certain air of sophistication. What else can explain all those so called "Jazz Festivals" that take place every year and feature, at best, one or two jazz musicians or groups and countless soul, R&B, pop, rock and other musicians and groups. There must be something about the word "jazz" that makes it the word of choice even when there is really little or no jazz actually involved. Add in the fact, that I've mentioned previously, that lots of music that isn't quite pop or rock or progressive rock or whatever is simply labeled "jazz" because you know, if something is the least bit adventurous it must be jazz.

 

As for the Billie Holiday, I just figured since every ******* new female wanna be jazz vocalist who come along IS ALWAYS said to be the next Billie Holiday or some such claptrap that today everyone reading this thread has the chance to actually listen to the one and only and totally original Billie Holiday (and hear why all those proclamations of "the next Billie Holiday" are completely wrong and totally worthless).

 

As you would know if you've been following this thread from the beginning I've done my best to try to avoid being negative (and I do apologize Joe for that little slip up) and focus on the positive. Plus I've been posting lots of what I feel is really good/great jazz that almost never gets mentioned on these types of "jazz recommendation" threads.

 

So let's all tune into the Billie Holiday birthday broadcast and just enjoy all the great music.

 



I do (somewhat) see where you're going with this.
However,
Your beef is really with the festival organizers and the record company marketing departments.
Not us Jazz Aficianados.
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Originally Posted by JoeDoe View Post
 

 

Sorry gentlemen, I didn't mean a swipe or jab. I just meant to imply that the record I posted was a seminal record and that hopefully anyone with developing an appreciation of (modern) jazz should at least hear it once. 

 

My tone was misconstrued!

No problem, now I understand where you were coming from. And "Milestones" is indeed a seminal modern jazz recording.

 

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I do (somewhat) see where you're going with this.
However,
Your beef is really with the festival organizers and the record company marketing departments.
Not us Jazz Aficianados.

Quite true Chris. And forget all those clueless music critics who know nothing about jazz and when hearing something even a little bit different from the normal pop/rock/soul/R&B/etc. music they're accustomed to hearing just slap the "jazz" label on it.

 

And now back to the jazz. In one of your prior posts you asked:

 

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Any fans of the mid Sixties Miles Davis Quintet out there?
Miles Davis
Tony Williams
Ron Carter
Wayne Shorter
Herbie Hancock

Two recommendations for you, however both are box sets and while neither is cheap both are well worth the money.

 

Miles Davis - The Complete Live at the Plugged Nickel 1965

 

And: Miles Davis - Quintet Live In Europe 1967 - The Bootleg Series Volume 1


These two releases serve as bookends for the great Miles Davis mid 1960s quintet. The Plugged Nickle recordings were made in late December of 1965, at the end of the first year that the quintet had been together and Live in Europe was recorded in late 1967 near the end of the quintet being together. And both are amazing examples of the almost telepathic communication that existed between the members of the quintet. All in all two of the finest live recordings of modern jazz ever made.

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Originally Posted by ralphp@optonline View Post
 

 

In a very similar vein, if not the exact same vein, try Marcus Roberts 1990 release "Deep In the Shed"

 

 

 

 

As always - enjoy!

I was listening to this today, great stuff and what a line up - I see Wycliffe Gordan (I wish he would sing more on his records, he's got that gospel voice.)  and Scotty Barnhart on trombone there. 

 

The question I wanted to ask is about Scotty. I don't know much about him - have you heard this album or would you recommend something else that he has played on? ¬ 

 

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