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post #226 of 503
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Originally Posted by kahaluu View Post
 

The bass on the 100's are more abundant, very deep. Mids are very nice, not as forward like the 70's. Highs are a bit smooth on the 100's compared to the 70's, not as detailed. I prefer the 70's over the 100's.  

 

Hmm that's sort of disappointing. I was hoping these could be an upgrade from my Atrio MG7, but the EPH-100 are said to be lacking in low end extension by comparison, so I guess these would have even less.

 

What about a comparison of the IM70 to UM3X?

post #227 of 503

Wow, you're really considered a bass head if the low end extension from 100's isn't enough for you.

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I believe the bass extension is more on the IM70's compared to the UM3X. However, it's been awhile since I last owned the UM3X.

post #229 of 503
I've never owned the UM3X, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and agree that the IM70 has better bass extension for one reason only. The IM70 is a high end dual dynamic, while the UM3X is a BA IEM. The dual dynamic is gonna win the bass extension game EVERY TIME. Well unless you're talking about a HiFiMan product, then all bets are off.
post #230 of 503
I just purchased a pair of EPH100s. There is still time to cancel the order. Can someobe give a more detailed AB comparison of the two headphones. I also got the EPHs for under 100 so I don't know if the extra fifty for the I'M70 is gonna make a difference.
post #231 of 503

I just saw the IM70 is $97.45 plus whatever shipping you choose. Not sure where they are $50 more unless you got the EPH for $65- $70 dollars. I think the most important differences are covered already. If you want straight down wearing at all then the IM is out. If you think replaceable cable is important then the IM is good. And, if you want more bass focus then the EPH or you like more foward mids and more treble sparkle then the AT might be the better choice. 

post #232 of 503
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

I just saw the IM70 is $97.45 plus whatever shipping you choose. 

Where was this at?

post #233 of 503
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Originally Posted by DrGroove View Post
 

Where was this at?


CDJapan

 

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOACS-27943

post #234 of 503
That is a great deal , but I'm waiting for the B3 before I pull the trigger on the AT
post #235 of 503
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Originally Posted by IEMagnet01 View Post

I've never owned the UM3X, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and agree that the IM70 has better bass extension for one reason only. The IM70 is a high end dual dynamic, while the UM3X is a BA IEM. The dual dynamic is gonna win the bass extension game EVERY TIME. Well unless you're talking about a HiFiMan product, then all bets are off.

 

It might have better extensión, but it doesn't have the same amount of bass "volume". I found the UM3X a little boomy to be honest. The UM3x did have a lot more speed than the IM70 to my ears though... but i wouldn't get the UM3X since i don't really find it an "upgrade" from the IM70.

 

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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

I just saw the IM70 is $97.45 plus whatever shipping you choose. Not sure where they are $50 more unless you got the EPH for $65- $70 dollars. I think the most important differences are covered already. If you want straight down wearing at all then the IM is out. If you think replaceable cable is important then the IM is good. And, if you want more bass focus then the EPH or you like more foward mids and more treble sparkle then the AT might be the better choice. 


The removable cable isn't that much of a big deal, since there isn't a replacement cable for the IM series yet. Though it is really nice to have the option.

post #236 of 503
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Originally Posted by delmonte View Post
 

CDJapan

 

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOACS-27943

 

Thanks, ordered from there. Ended up like $110 with EMS shipping.

 

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The removable cable isn't that much of a big deal, since there isn't a replacement cable for the IM series yet. Though it is really nice to have the option.

 

Does anyone know what the socket type is for these? I know there are people who will make a custom cable if you can point them to the right sockets to buy. It also seems odd that they use female ends on the cable side. Why not just use established 2 pin westone design so people have cable options?

post #237 of 503
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Originally Posted by DrGroove View Post
 

 

Thanks, ordered from there. Ended up like $110 with EMS shipping.

 

 

Does anyone know what the socket type is for these? I know there are people who will make a custom cable if you can point them to the right sockets to buy. It also seems odd that they use female ends on the cable side. Why not just use established 2 pin westone design so people have cable options?


AT's propietary design, so we need to wait for them to release the connectors to buy either replacement and make DIY cables, or wait for Cardas to release some custom replacement cables and newer ear guides.


Edited by Kukyo - 1/18/14 at 8:05pm
post #238 of 503

I got a set of defective JVC FXZ200s and after I get them returned and refunded, I've kind of decided to get the IM70s instead. They're a lot cheaper but am I understanding correctly that they're not any less good (though obviously very different)?

 

Even though the left of the FXZ200 I got isn't working properly, I could sort of hear their potential and sound signature and they sound good but a bit too bassy for me and not enough treble. From what I've read the IM70s have more treble which is good, but how does the bass compare? Does it also tighten up after burn-in, because I saw some people saying it was a bit too much initially. And also can people comment more on their isolation? Is it better than the FXZ200s? I had the FXT90s before, which had probably very similar isolation to the FXZ's (average... not great).

 

I also figured out I want something more airy and spacious than the FXZ's... I think their very warm and lush sound signature can make it a tad congested, but they aren't burnt in and I know that's key for those. Also not fair to judge on a defective pair :p. But do the IM70s fit the bill for more airiness as well? I listen to mainly classical, but lots of other stuff too, out of ipod classic 160 and FiiO E6. I'm basically just looking for confirmation on these... I was also recommended the RHA MA750 and was looking at the Yamaha EPH-100s so not 100% sure yet. Coming from the FXT90, looking for a bit more bass, slightly more forward mids, but still not overly colored and bassy like I feel the FXZs are. Looking for a fun, impactful, immersive sound, but into detail and clarity... I don't want the bass taking over the rest.

 

Lastly, more comments on the IM70s sound stage, separation, and detail? If possible compared to FXT90 and the others I mentioned.


Edited by delmonte - 1/19/14 at 3:31pm
post #239 of 503
The FXZ 200 is a triple dynamic with a LF Driver AND a dedicated sub woofer. This means they would naturally be BASSIER than the already bassy FXT90. What were you expecting? Clear forward highs with a sub woofer and LF driver?! lol Ofcourse the Im70 is gonna have better highs. It's much more balanced, but not skimpy on bass because it has a HF driver and LF driver. It's just missing the highly unnecessary sub woofer, that you only need if you're a super bass head who doesn't care about balance.
post #240 of 503
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Originally Posted by IEMagnet01 View Post

The FXZ 200 is a triple dynamic with a LF Driver AND a dedicated sub woofer. This means they would naturally be BASSIER than the already bassy FXT90. What were you expecting? Clear forward highs with a sub woofer and LF driver?! lol Ofcourse the Im70 is gonna have better highs. It's much more balanced, but not skimpy on bass because it has a HF driver and LF driver. It's just missing the highly unnecessary sub woofer, that you only need if you're a super bass head who doesn't care about balance.


Well I did want some more bass than the FXT90, and on the FXZ thread many people said that after burn in the bass was still great but not getting in the way. But I guess the bass is just too much on those and I want a more balanced sound than I thought.

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