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Senn HD650 or the Beyer DT990 for my interests?

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I'm trying to decide between the HD650 and the DT990. My primary use will be with gaming and movies.

I know there is a price difference between the two but please disregard that in your recommendation.

I will be using one of them with a Xonar Essence STX or a Xonar Phoebus.

(Not really sure on the sound card yet, extra points if you want to chime in on that too!)

I don't care about gaining a competitive edge when gaming, I just want the most immersive sound quality.

 

 

Those are the main two I'm considering but if you have a strong recommendation that fits my criteria, let me know!

 

Thanks for looking!


Edited by BradleyM29 - 11/29/13 at 11:37pm
post #2 of 7

I don't know much about either of the headphones you are looking at, but i would advise getting a external Amp and DAC instead of a sound card if you don't care about the competitive edge in video games, since you usually get better sound quality for your money with external components.

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Originally Posted by BradleyM29 View Post
 

I'm trying to decide between the HD650 and the DT990. My primary use will be with gaming and movies.

I know there is a price difference between the two but please disregard that in your recommendation.

I will be using one of them with a Xonar Essence STX or a Xonar Phoebus.

(Not really sure on the sound card yet, extra points if you want to chime in on that too!)

I don't care about gaining a competitive edge when gaming, I just want the most immersive sound quality.

Those are the main two I'm considering but if you have a strong recommendation that fits my criteria, let me know!

Check out the DT880s, a more balanced sound then the DT990.

Not sure what to say on the Senn HD650s.

 

Sound card wise, get the Essence STX, drivers are more mature.

I'm not sure if Asus has improved the drivers enough on the Phoebus.

Even thou the Phoebus is a newer card then the STX, the Phoebus does not really offer any practical hardware advantages, over the STX.

 

To me the next step above the STX/Phoebus for sound quality would be getting something like the Audio-GD NFB-15.32 external DAC & Head Amp. $255+shipping.

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB1532/NFB15.32EN.htm

My 15.32 total cost was $298, shipped to me in California.

The 15.32 comes with USB and S/PDIF (optical & coaxial) inputs, so it can be connected directly to the computer's motherboard or a sound card, like the Creative Sound Blaster Z (OEM), $57.

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If I choose an external DAC, do I lose my capability for emulated surround sound?

I forgot to mention I wanted that.

post #5 of 7
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Check out the DT880s, a more balanced sound then the DT990.

Not sure what to say on the Senn HD650s.

 

Sound card wise, get the Essence STX, drivers are more mature.

I'm not sure if Asus has improved the drivers enough on the Phoebus.

Even thou the Phoebus is a newer card then the STX, the Phoebus does not really offer any practical hardware advantages, over the STX.

 

To me the next step above the STX/Phoebus for sound quality would be getting something like the Audio-GD NFB-15.32 external DAC & Head Amp. $255+shipping.

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB1532/NFB15.32EN.htm

My 15.32 total cost was $298, shipped to me in California.

The 15.32 comes with USB and S/PDIF (optical & coaxial) inputs, so it can be connected directly to the computer's motherboard or a sound card, like the Creative Sound Blaster Z (OEM), $57.

Actually, I liked the DT 990 for movies more as it had a wider sound stage and a bit more bass, the same goes for gaming. The extra sound stage width was nice.

 

That said, with reagards to the sound Card, Prime pointers from  Purple! 

 

I however can recommend with 4 Thumps up the Audio GD 15.32! I own a higher end Audio Gd amp and I must say they are AWESOME units! An mine is also a combo, DAC and AMP unit! 

post #6 of 7
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If I choose an external DAC, do I lose my capability for emulated surround sound?

I forgot to mention I wanted that.


Yes and no, quality external DACs and head amps themselves do not do any surround sound processing.

You need to have something else process (with an audio processor) the Headphone Surround Sound before the digital audio signal is sent to the DAC/Amp.

The external DAC needs to have a S/PDIF (optical or coaxial) input, as a USB DAC usually bypasses all sound card features.

With S/PDIF, you can connect to a motherboard's on-board audio sound card or an add-on internal sound card.

 

An external sound card, which will have a DAC, head amp, and audio processer, can get away with using USB and still have headphone surround sound. External sound cards can be from barely decent sound quality ($40) to fairly good sound quality ($150).

Audio quality in general is whatever your willing to budget, and somewhat dependent on your needs, like music, gaming & movies.

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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 


Yes and no, quality external DACs and head amps themselves do not do any surround sound processing.

You need to have something else process (with an audio processor) the Headphone Surround Sound before the digital audio signal is sent to the DAC/Amp.

The external DAC needs to have a S/PDIF (optical or coaxial) input, as a USB DAC usually bypasses all sound card features.

With S/PDIF, you can connect to a motherboard's on-board audio sound card or an add-on internal sound card.

 

An external sound card, which will have a DAC, head amp, and audio processer, can get away with using USB and still have headphone surround sound. External sound cards can be from barely decent sound quality ($40) to fairly good sound quality ($150).

Audio quality in general is whatever your willing to budget, and somewhat dependent on your needs, like music, gaming & movies.

Good point, I still enjoy surround sound through my Audio GD 10ES2 out of the USB out, Movies and games still make me spin me head around at some points. But I'm sure there are limitations. Using SPDIF seems to be much better if your implimenting a move complex program to encode the surround sound 

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