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post #31 of 209
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SEC. 112.05. MAXIMUM NOISE LEVEL OF POWERED EQUIPMENT OR POWERED HAND TOOLS.
(Amended by Ord. No. 161,574, Eff. 9/8/86.)
My landlord has violated this one over and over for several months now.

This "lady" would've died of a heart attack if she lived here. The constant contruction/deconstruction noise is ridiculous.

How can one prove any on this, BTW?

I may be able to use it as leverage when I move from here next month.

-Ed
post #32 of 209
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Originally Posted by Edwood
How can one prove any on this, BTW?
Under our civil code jurisdiction we can hire a «Huissier de justice» (bayliff) .
He will be able to go where you live and be a witness before a court of law of what he personnaly heard.

Amicalement
post #33 of 209
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Originally Posted by Jasper994
yeah but if Vikram actually weights more than 160Lbs I'd be amazed...
120 pounds will do it. I had a "bigfoot" above me once. It's the way the heel hits the floor/ceiling that produces the 'thud-thud-thud' of hearing someone go from one place to another. Try as I might to block it out of my mind, it's difficult. Especially when trying to sleep. An unwished for serious dislike develops for that person. Thankfully they moved and a normal walker moved in.

The bigfoot usually does not realize they are heavy steppers. Just as a friend of mine & his brother are big time door slammers without knowing it.
post #34 of 209
DAMN! that's one crazy bitch.

thank god i live in a house with no set quiet hours.

people at my house literally put cds on repeat, blare their speakers at top volume, lock their doors and leave for the weekend.

the first two weeks killed me.

now i can sleep through it no problem. plus my e2's really help!

i suggest you two get married, here's what you do, put on Blur's classic "Tender" burst into her room singing it. it's a good ole powerful song and you just keep singing till she's yours... or is it a he?


OOPS!
post #35 of 209
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Originally Posted by genetic
Under our civil code jurisdiction we can hire a «Huissier de justice» (bayliff) .
He will be able to go where you live and be a witness before a court of law of what he personnaly heard.

Amicalement
Or video taping a sound level meter's readings at the time?

Or pictures of the construction/deconctruction site?

Is it legal to tear up and remodel a unit right next to AND above one where people are living?

-Ed
post #36 of 209
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Originally Posted by Edwood
How can one prove any on this, BTW?-Ed
Turn on the TV with the volume muted, using a video camera video tape the date/time on the news and the SPL readings of a Radio Shack meter. Then, move around and locate the source of the noise, all the while bringing the SPL meter with you to show that it is getting louder and louder until you reach the source.
post #37 of 209
Ugh, truly a psycho-bitch from hell. You've made good moves in e-mailing AT&T and contacting your landlord, I also suggest you listen to what Hirsch said.
post #38 of 209
I can sorta see both sides here, but firstly let me just say that it was completely wrong of her to post your personal information online. And secondly, just glancing at this list, most of the noises are made during the day, and (here at least), people are free to walk around their homes and play music without fear of complaints during the day. The day lasts from 7am-11pm.

But has the management given you warnings? Were the sounds you were making loud enough for that? If so, then here at least, it's three warnings and you're evicted. It's been that way in the last two buildings I lived in here in Helsinki. So just be careful, and try to be understanding when using speakers... and don't walk flatfooted!

Now then, for peaceful apartment living, we've found that people are more understanding of such things as parties (I suppose you were having parties when she mentioned stampedes?), if you post a notice somewhere where everyone can see it. It just gives a nice heads-up to your neighbors, and they're less likely to call and complain if they know it's coming.

We had a noisy neighbor that we almost called and complained about on several occassions. It wasn't because he clumped around his apartment as loud as he could (we nicknamed him Clumpy), and it wasn't because he almost burned down the entire building one easter weekend (a neighbor saved his life, and he never even thanked the guy)...it was because at about 3 or 4am on weekends, he became a very loud Master P. At the top of his lungs he'd go "UHHHHHHHHHHH!" as loud as he could. He'd go on for hours until he passed out, I suppose. I wonder what was turning him into Master P.

But we never kept a log on the guy, and during the days he had a right to clump around all he wanted. Now in this building, the place above us has it's little quirks. They must have done a monster renovation because we thought they had a construction business up there. But see, during the day, that's their right. And even now, at precisely 6pm, they start the dragging of the furniture over hardwood floors. They are absolutely destroying their floor. But we don't log it, it's just funny. They also now have a baby, who we call BamBam because she likes to sit on the floor and smack it with what I assume is a spoon (I hope it's only a spoon!). You can hear the baby playing with their Springer Spaniel and it's just all part of apartment life. After all, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. We have a dachshund, who, like all good doxies, loves to bark! And she sounds huge. Now we have it under control, but every now and then, about two or three times a day, she'll let loose. Now if we complain about the furniture-moving and baby BamBam, what do you think they'll say about our dog? It's just not a perfect world.

Now above them are some obnoxious people who like to begin partying at 3am. They've stopped for a while, so I can only assume they were warned. Then below us is a nice college student who posts notes informing us when there will be a party, kind soul.

It's just all part of apartment living, no use complaining to anyone about it. But I hope that somehow, after you can get her to take your personal info down, you can work it out somehow.
post #39 of 209
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Originally Posted by sleepkyng

people at my house literally put cds on repeat, blare their speakers at top volume, lock their doors and leave for the weekend.

the first two weeks killed me.

now i can sleep through it no problem. plus my e2's really help!
If I had roommates that did that, they'd return to find their doors kicked in and their stereo missing.

"Gee, I don't know, I was gone for awhile, looks like someone broke in your room and stole it."

-Ed
post #40 of 209
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Originally Posted by sleepkyng
i suggest you two get married, here's what you do, put on Blur's classic "Tender" burst into her room singing it. it's a good ole powerful song and you just keep singing till she's yours... or is it a he?


OOPS!
I don't think she's his type.

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Originally Posted by Ozric
This woman is pushing 50, and lives with her mom.



-Ed
post #41 of 209
Edwood and I should bring our subwoofers by and show her what real noise is...
post #42 of 209
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Originally Posted by sleepkyng
DAMN! that's one crazy bitch.
Or some poor soul that doesn't deserve her life ruined by others enforcement of their musical tastes maybe?

This is "not" a one sided thing and I am sure this lady has just cause to complain.

Keeping "logs" is a good thing and the police and courts here in the UK advise that you "log" the times of the disturbance. Online logs, however, may be a bit OTT but the only way I was made aware of these "logs" was thanks to the person who started this thread.

So this woman is in her 50's and lives with her Mother? Could be her mother is in her 80's and the music is causing her distress, could be her mother is ill and it's causing her discomfort.

The thread starter is training to be a doctor and I agree 100% that he should be adopting a different approach to this and perfecting his "bedside" manner..... from what I've read he won't make make much of a Doctor carrying on like this.

Communication, understanding and dialogue between both parties is the only way to progress and I'm sure a Doctor would agree with that?

Pinkie.
post #43 of 209
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Originally Posted by PinkFloyd
Or some poor soul that doesn't deserve her life ruined by others enforcement of their musical tastes maybe?

This is "not" a one sided thing and I am sure this lady has just cause to complain.

Keeping "logs" is a good thing and the police and courts here in the UK advise that you "log" the times of the disturbance. Online logs, however, may be a bit OTT but the only way I was made aware of these "logs" was thanks to the person who started this thread.

So this woman is in her 50's and lives with her Mother? Could be her mother is in her 80's and the music is causing her distress, could be her mother is ill and it's causing her discomfort.

The thread starter is training to be a doctor and I agree 100% that he should be adopting a different approach to this and perfecting his "bedside" manner..... from what I've read he won't make make much of a Doctor carrying on like this.

Pinkie.
I've been to Vikram's apartment. The floor creaks a lot just shifting your weight. When the boards are loose like that the resulting sound of someone walking can be emphasized quite a bit. The thing is, it's not their fault so to speak. He doesn't have the option to rip up his floors and fix it. If the apartment owner really wanted to fix the situation they could pull up the carpets and install sound deadening materials as well as fixing the creaking parts of the floor.

It's rather unfair that she blames him for the fact that she lives in an apartment with thin walls. If you are a person who is sensative to this sort of thing, you should know better than to live in an apartment where there is someone living above you and you should pay attention to how well the walls attenuate outside noises. It should have also dawned on her before she moved into the apartment that people in apartments come and go and if you are going to have someone living above you, they could be a heavy footed person.

It seems rather silly to me not to be proactive when it comes to choosing your living space. You must be aware of what things are important to you. I personally prefer a bottom apartment because they tend to be cooler but I realize when I take a bottom floor that I'm going to hear my neighbors walking around upstairs... If I were to take a top floor apartment, I must realize that I could have someone cold blooded downstairs that constantly runs their heater. This will tend to make my apartment very warm. In some situations, it will save me on heating, in others, room temperatures could be excessively high. The thing is though, I'm aware of it before hand and I'm certainly not going to be mad at them over it... It would be a lot different if he was playing music after 10 pm or before 7 am regularly, but he's not. It would also be different if it was obvious he was jumping up and down in his apartment during the quiet times... during the day though... come on!

Something else, if you are someone who works at home, and you know you need a quiet environment to work in, wouldn't proper selection of where you live be even more important?!?

This lady is blaming him for her poor judgement in apartment selection...
post #44 of 209
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Originally Posted by Jasper994
I've been to Vikram's apartment. The floor creaks a lot just shifting your weight. When the boards are loose like that the resulting sound of someone walking can be emphasized quite a bit. The thing is, it's not their fault so to speak. He doesn't have the option to rip up his floors and fix it. If the apartment owner really wanted to fix the situation they could pull up the carpets and install sound deadening materials as well as fixing the creaking parts of the floor.

It's rather unfair that she blames him for the fact that she lives in an apartment with thin walls. If you are a person who is sensative to this sort of thing, you should know better than to live in an apartment where there is someone living above you and you should pay attention to how well the walls attenuate outside noises. It should have also dawned on her before she moved into the apartment that people in apartments come and go and if you are going to have someone living above you, they could be a heavy footed person.

It seems rather silly to me not to be proactive when it comes to choosing your living space. You must be aware of what things are important to you. I personally prefer a bottom apartment because they tend to be cooler but I realize when I take a bottom floor that I'm going to hear my neighbors walking around upstairs... If I were to take a top floor apartment, I must realize that I could have someone cold blooded downstairs that constantly runs their heater. This will tend to make my apartment very warm. In some situations, it will save me on heating, in others, room temperatures could be excessively high. The thing is though, I'm aware of it before hand and I'm certainly not going to be mad at them over it... It would be a lot different if he was playing music after 10 pm or before 7 am regularly, but he's not. It would also be different if it was obvious he was jumping up and down in his apartment during the quiet times... during the day though... come on!

Something else, if you are someone who works at home, and you know you need a quiet environment to work in, wouldn't proper selection of where you live be even more important?!?

This lady is blaming him for her poor judgement in apartment selection...
Who was there first? that also plays a BIG part in a grievance. Creaking floorboards are one thing but loud music and disrespect and ignorance are another ........... specially from a trainee Doctor.
post #45 of 209
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Originally Posted by eyeteeth
120 pounds will do it. I had a "bigfoot" above me once. It's the way the heel hits the floor/ceiling that produces the 'thud-thud-thud' of hearing someone go from one place to another. Try as I might to block it out of my mind, it's difficult. Especially when trying to sleep. An unwished for serious dislike develops for that person. Thankfully they moved and a normal walker moved in.

The bigfoot usually does not realize they are heavy steppers. Just as a friend of mine & his brother are big time door slammers without knowing it.
Definately. Just living below a person in an apartment with thin ceilings will tell you all about the mechanics of their walking. The nice couple that previously lived above me was so quiet I coudn't tell when they were home or away - real dainty walkers. I loved them The current dweller up there is a real heel slammer. It can get LOUD - I swear there is some acoustic amplification going on inside that damn ceiling. I know she doesn't hear it nearly as loud as I do when she's stomping around. And that high pitched squealing sound that her old, crappy recliner chair makes when she sits down and gets up must have been painstakingly ENGINEERED IN HELL. Ok, I should stop now

When I was in the apartment dorms at college I could not hear a thing from the upstairs neighbors because everything was build so solidly. These cheapo thin walled new apartment complexes really suck.
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