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Senn HD-600 or HE-400?

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Hello, I hope this is the place to post this kind of stuff.

 

I am looking into getting a new set of headphones, I already own the Grado SR-225 and while I liked them a lot I have begun to find them kinda tiring but still enjoy the sound signature of the Grado every now and then. 

 

After some research I think I've settled between either the Senheisser or the HE-400, I'm just a bit wary that the HE-400 might be a too similar to the 225, what do you think? I want something that is more balanced and not as colored as the Grado, good/fast definition and all-round good performers. I'm not a big bass head but I do like to hear the bass lines and be able to pick the instruments apart from each other. Nice Soundstage would be a great plus, as well.

 

My favorite music genres are Prog Rock (Rush, Floyd, Porcupine Tree), Classic Rock (Zepellin, Sabbath), Post Rock (Caspian, Russian circles) , Metal (Tool, Mastodon, Baroness, Clutch), that kind of stuff, but I listen every now and then to some pop and jazz. Not classical music though.

 

As for AMP/DAC (my main source would be either a computer or an iPod Classic) I was thinking of getting the O2-ODAC Combo, would this be a good pairing with any of the above headphones?

 

My budget would be about 400 for the cans and 275 for the amp/dac (in case I need it, I think I could live with just the amp).

 

Thanks in advance!

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I didn't see an "EDIT" button, sorry but I just wanted to add that around here where I live there is no place that carries the HE-400 and the one place that carries the HD-600 only does so after you have ordered it through them, so I can't demo the headphones before purchasing.

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Thank you! I've seen the first link but not the second one, it looks like the HE-400 is more up my alley...judging by your signature you own  them, how do you like them with the E17? 

 

Do you mind me asking what kind of music do you listen to? Any genre that does not "play nice" with the HE-400?

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Thank you! I've seen the first link but not the second one, it looks like the HE-400 is more up my alley...judging by your signature you own  them, how do you like them with the E17? 

 

Do you mind me asking what kind of music do you listen to? Any genre that does not "play nice" with the HE-400?

 

I mostly listen to film scores composed by Hans Zimmer (just to keep me focused while working). Besides that I listen pop, indian movie songs, indian classical songs. I read somewhere in headfi that HE 400 is not suitable for vocals (but I do not have any complaint about this, I am still a noob when it comes to the technical aspects of sound quality).

For me, HE 400 is a big upgrade from K240 mk ii and crappy bose and few iems. I am very much pleased with HE 400. I am looking for a dac/amp upgrade (audio gd 15.32).

E17 can drive HE 400, but HE 400 would get full benefits from modi/magni or audio gd 15.32.

I would suggest you to consider also audio gd 15.32 dac/amp.


Edited by rubinstein - 11/27/13 at 5:58pm
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I'll look into the "not good for vocals" thing, if it appears to be a common opinion then they might not be the best option for me (most of what I listen to has vocals, some as a main focus others not so much) and I'll be back in square one.

Thanks again!
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I mostly listen to film scores composed by Hans Zimmer (just to keep me focused while working). Besides that I listen pop, indian movie songs, indian classical songs. I read somewhere in headfi that HE 400 is not suitable for vocals (but I do not have any complaint about this, I am still a noob when it comes to the technical aspects of sound quality).
For me, HE 400 is a big upgrade from K240 mk ii and crappy bose and few iems. I am very much pleased with HE 400. I am looking for a dac/amp upgrade (audio gd 15.32).
E17 can drive HE 400, but HE 400 would get full benefits from modi/magni or audio gd 15.32.
I would suggest you to consider also audio gd 15.32 dac/amp.

Edited by CJ_CoCa - 11/27/13 at 7:19pm
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I'll look into the "not good for vocals" thing, if it appears to be a common opinion then they might not be the best option for me (most of what I listen to has vocals, some as a main focus others not so much) and I'll be back in square one.

Thanks again!

hey dudeee... not sure if you're still on the hunt or already pulled the trigger on a pair of headphones.

 

i have the he400 and i think the vocals are great: clear, sharp, and detailed. i'm prob not on the level yet where i can give you the detailed run-down using crazy audiophile terms. idunno why anyone would say they aren't good for vocals, except for maybe the silibance issue that some users experience. I have noticed silibance on certain recordings when there is a prominent chsk or ssshhtt sound. The example is "Easy Please Me" by Katy B. it's actually gotten better now & w/ a lil EQ, the issue is gone.

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Hd600>he400
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Hd600>he400
+1
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HE-400 plays extremely well with film scores like Hans Zimmer, and orchestral compositions in general.  I think the one area where you might want to go HD600 over the HE-400 is if you listen to a lot of rock music.  You might find the HE-400 too laid back for a lot of rock, but for progressive rock it shouldn't be a problem.

 

HD600 doesn't have the bass extension, texture and layering of the HE-400 for film compositions, and the HE-400 doesn't have the upper midrange energy of the HD600 for aggressive rock.

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