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post #271 of 481
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Originally Posted by TheGimp View Post
 

Hey guys,

 

I had some questions about this amp that I'm hoping you can help me with. I apologize in advance if they're of the noob variety (they are, I'm sure).

 

1. Theoretically, this won't blow up my JH16 CIEMs, correct? I realize I'd need to keep volume in check. I think Greed mentioned awhile back he tried his with some IEMs and it produced a slight hiss. I can probably deal with that for occasional use as long as it's not dangerous (even using my macbook directly has a slight hiss).

 

I would say the opposite. Master 9’s relay based exponential volume will not give you all the volume at ones like a liner volume do (exponential volume = more steps on the volume on low to medium level). The 9 can surely blow up your JH16 and most other cans if you play on too high volume. I always take the volume down to zero before changing phones.

 

I don’t normally listen to CIEMs on the 9, but haven’t have any trouble then doing it with my Klipsch S4 (not as sensitive as JH16). I think Klipsch s4 sound truly good for the price.  

 

2. Has anyone used this as a pre-amp? I'm thinking about using a Gungnir > M9 > Emotiva UPA-200 power amp as an all-in-one setup. The Emotiva isn't the best power amp around, but really all I can afford at the moment.

 

No I haven’t, my speaker rig is stashed 1000 km from there a live now =(

 

I'm really debating between the above M9 setup and the Schiit Ragnarok. The remote of the M9 really does have some added value for me. As someone with a physical disability, it might become a pain to change the volume by hand. So the decision to buy the Ragnarok is weighing on me. Also, I know the Rag isn't released yet so I'm not looking for any sonic comparisons.

 

I think only you can answer this question.


Edited by Articnoise - 3/30/14 at 2:29am
post #272 of 481
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Originally Posted by Articnoise View Post
 

 

Thanks for the input. And you're right; I'll have to make the final decision. I do really appreciate the input nonetheless. I'll pretty much be starting from scratch on this setup so it's all a bit overwhelming.

 

Either way I think the M9 is a great piece of gear and I probably wouldn't be disappointed.

post #273 of 481

Yes the 9 sound very good IMO.

 

I haven’t heard the AURALiC Taurus MKII, but it seems that many who have like/love it. The Taurus just like the M9 also appears too sound good with a variety of different phones. I don’t think it has a remote though.

post #274 of 481

I run my M9 in using single ended IC's from my DAC.   I have tried the gain on low and high using the LCD 3 and prefer the high gain.   I find the sound more forward- and more powerful- and just bigger sounding.    Is it safe to use the M9 with the LCD-3 in high gain mode even though it is a reasonably easy to drive headphone?  Could I ruin the drivers on the LCD-3?

 

I figured- balanced mode is about 6 dcb higher than single ended;- so since I am using single ended connections- maybe the high gain is not as high as if I was using balanced.

 

Any insights would be appreciated.

post #275 of 481

Before you damage the drivers your will be left deaf, 121dB with 1W is very loud, over a long period tinnitus garantied.


Edited by mowglycdb - 3/31/14 at 1:15pm
post #276 of 481

Why will I be left deaf?   I lower the volume in proportion to the higher gain..

post #277 of 481
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Originally Posted by rsbrsvp View Post
 

I run my M9 in using single ended IC's from my DAC.   I have tried the gain on low and high using the LCD 3 and prefer the high gain.   I find the sound more forward- and more powerful- and just bigger sounding.    Is it safe to use the M9 with the LCD-3 in high gain mode even though it is a reasonably easy to drive headphone?  Could I ruin the drivers on the LCD-3?

 

I figured- balanced mode is about 6 dcb higher than single ended;- so since I am using single ended connections- maybe the high gain is not as high as if I was using balanced.

 

Any insights would be appreciated.

 

 

The LCD-3 drivers have, in theory, the ability to output 15wpc. So the M9 will not be able to damage the LCD3's drivers.

 

From my own experience my LCD2.2's are undamaged after inadvertently driving them at HE6 volume with my M6,with my son running into the living room asking where I had hidden the speakers!!


Edited by nigeljames - 4/1/14 at 5:09am
post #278 of 481
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Originally Posted by rsbrsvp View Post
 

I run my M9 in using single ended IC's from my DAC.   I have tried the gain on low and high using the LCD 3 and prefer the high gain.   I find the sound more forward- and more powerful- and just bigger sounding.    Is it safe to use the M9 with the LCD-3 in high gain mode even though it is a reasonably easy to drive headphone?  Could I ruin the drivers on the LCD-3?

 

I figured- balanced mode is about 6 dcb higher than single ended;- so since I am using single ended connections- maybe the high gain is not as high as if I was using balanced.

 

Any insights would be appreciated.

Yes it is safe to use the high gain. Kingwa even recommend people that drives SE from the dac (with lower output than 2.5 RMS) or people with low sensitive cans to use the higher gain.

 

My experience is that the volume is a bit higher in balanced low gain then SE on high gain, at least with my toys. It all depends on the source output level.

 

post #279 of 481
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post
 

 

 

The LCD-3 drivers have, in theory, the ability to output 15wpc. So the M9 will not be able to damage the LCD3's drivers.

 

From my own experience my LCD2.2's are undamaged after inadvertently driving them at HE6 volume with my M6,with my son running into the living room asking where I had hidden the speakers!!

Lol I will not test if the theory is true.

 

But is good to know that they can take at least the volume for the HE6.

post #280 of 481

Thanks to everyone for your replies.

post #281 of 481

Just recieved my Audio-GD Master 9 three weeks late. Not bad if you consider the Rag and the Headamp waits.  I have no patience in waiting for months or years for a toy. The amp was shipped from Hong Kong on Wednesday and I got it today friday!  Wow!  And that included going through customs.

  It is a beast in size and weight!  But not gonna take it anywhere and have room for it so no biggie!

It sounds great through both my XCs and th900.  Will make comparisons and more observations after I get more time with it.

 I love having a remote with it!

post #282 of 481

I am curious the SQ in comparison to Burson Soloist + XC.

post #283 of 481
The Master 9 has 3 different headphone outputs: SE, 4 pin balanced and 3 pin balanced pair .
Any problems if I plug in my balanced 4 pin XC and SE Th900 at the same time? Will it cut down on power or sound quality?
post #284 of 481

AFAIK M9 is not intended to use with multiple headphones at the same time.

post #285 of 481
I wrote to Kingwa and I got a answer very promptly. The fact that I can leave both headphones plugged in is a great convenience.

"Dear Larry,
This is safe.
In theory, the headphone amp connect balance and single ended headphone may cause the sound slightly degrade, but the Master 9 have very strong output, so may can't have degrade.
Kingwa"
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