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post #136 of 644
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Congrats on your M9.

 

I have the M6 and could not be more pleased, nice to know it competes ( not that I ever doubted it ) well with some very highly regarded and much more expensive amps.

 

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Thanks Nigel. Which of your headphones do you like best with your M6? It seems like it takes about an hour for my M9 to sound its best after powering it up. I've been shutting the amp off when not in use. Do you do the same?

 

I love all my phones with the M6. One of it's strengths is it's flexibility to work with a lot of different phones (high and low impedance, power hungry or not) does not seem to make a lot of difference.

The natural character of the phones shines through and as I love them all it's hard to say which I like best.

 

From reading about the M9 it seems that it might be a little warmer but slightly less neutral than the M6 but I find the M6 to be superb, and not bright, with the HE6's, T1's and HD800's and at the same time no really 'dark' with the LCD2.2's although my cabling may effect that.

 

I normally warm mine up for at least 20 minutes before use but it sounds perfectly fine from cold. I do turn it off when not in use.

post #137 of 644
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Got my M9 running last night and I am very pleased with the sound quality of this amp. Actually that's a huge understatement. This amp has exceeded my expectations big time. I've been listening to my highly modified K340s driven by this amp. Since I've owned this headphone for nearly 23 years, I have heard it driven by a lot of amps including the RSA Darkstar, Cavalli Liquid Fire, EC Zana Deux SE, Luxman SQ-N100, RSA Raptor and SPL Phonitor. The M9 drives my K340s better than all of those amps and by quite a margin. The M9 elevates my Headphile modded K340 into a real contender IMO. This amp/can combination produces deep well defined bass, a midrange that sounds natural with touch of warmth and sweet highs that are clear but not bright in any way. I would say this amp is slightly on the warm side but in a good way. It also dead quiet with high sensitivity/low impedance headphones like my LA-7000. I would like to thank Greed for steering me in the direction of this amp because it matches my preferences to a T. Back to listening.

 

Congrats Steve on the purchase. The M9 is truly an incredibly versatile amp. It stacks up very nicely to the best SS amps I've heard including the GSX mk2, Cavalli LAu, Luxman P1u, Beta 22, and Burson Conductor. I'm preparing my response versus the GSX mk2 today - so that is coming soon (sorry for the delays). As for the Stratus comparison, that should be soon as well as I'm taking delivery today! 

 

Fully agree with your assessment, and I'm glad you are enjoying the amp!

post #138 of 644
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Congrats Steve on the purchase. The M9 is truly an incredibly versatile amp. It stacks up very nicely to the best SS amps I've heard including the GSX mk2, Cavalli LAu, Luxman P1u, Beta 22, and Burson Conductor. I'm preparing my response versus the GSX mk2 today - so that is coming soon (sorry for the delays). As for the Stratus comparison, that should be soon as well as I'm taking delivery today! 

 

Fully agree with your assessment, and I'm glad you are enjoying the amp!


I'm very interested in your thoughts on the M9 vs the GSX mk2. Did you have both to compare at the same time?  I'm looking for a neutral and transparent amp with a spacious soundstage for my LCD-Xs. It seems like it's not too hard to find clean SS amps that are fairly neutral, but many have smallish soundstages and a little bit of grain.

post #139 of 644
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I'm very interested in your thoughts on the M9 vs the GSX mk2. Did you have both to compare at the same time?  I'm looking for a neutral and transparent amp with a spacious soundstage for my LCD-Xs. It seems like it's not too hard to find clean SS amps that are fairly neutral, but many have smallish soundstages and a little bit of grain.


I second that.  I've also been eyeing the M9 as an upgrade to my Yulong A18 using the DA8 as a source.  I'm just hoping that the sound isn't as bright as the mjolnir I auditioned it with a couple weeks ago.


Edited by Maven86 - 1/15/14 at 9:50am
post #140 of 644
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I'm very interested in your thoughts on the M9 vs the GSX mk2. Did you have both to compare at the same time?  I'm looking for a neutral and transparent amp with a spacious soundstage for my LCD-Xs. It seems like it's not too hard to find clean SS amps that are fairly neutral, but many have smallish soundstages and a little bit of grain.

 

Unfortunately no, most of the comparison will be via notes and audio memory. I had owned two different GSX mk2's for about 5 months total so I'm still rather acquainted with the overall sound. I would have liked to had them side by side, but alas I didn't expect to let go of my baby (GSX mk2) so soon (the offer was too good to pass up). The Stratus will be a direct comparison though.

post #141 of 644
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I second that.  I've also been eyeing the M9 as an upgrade to my Yulong DA8.  I'm just hoping that the sound isn't as bright as the mjolnir I auditioned it with a couple weeks ago.


The DA8 is a first-rate DAC and has a pretty respectable amp--low noise floor, very neutral, but it doesn't have the soundstage and lacks some of the smoothness and resolution of the better amps. But it's a pretty nice bit of gear and I think you have the luxury of being able to take your time to find a better amp. I have the Mjolnir now and it's pretty good with the LCD-Xs, but a little brighter and leaner than I'd like. Very nice soundstage, though.

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Sorry Barry, I edited my post and meant to say that I was using it with the A18 amp and the DA8 as a source.  To my ears the A18 is a much better amp than the one built into the DA8, which you is as you've described.  Yea, the mjolnir definitely had much more "oomph" than the A18, but I actually prefered the overall signature of the A18, the soundstage was also larger on it as well.

post #143 of 644
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Unfortunately no, most of the comparison will be via notes and audio memory. I had owned two different GSX mk2's for about 5 months total so I'm still rather acquainted with the overall sound. I would have liked to had them side by side, but alas I didn't expect to let go of my baby (GSX mk2) so soon (the offer was too good to pass up). The Stratus will be a direct comparison though.

 

Looking forward to your perspective.

 

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Sorry Barry, I edited my post and meant to say that I was using it with the A18 amp and the DA8 as a source.  To my ears the A18 is a much better amp than the one built into the DA8, which you is as you've described.  Yea, the mjolnir definitely had much more "oomph" than the A18, but I actually prefered the overall signature of the A18, the soundstage was also larger on it as well.

 

 

Ahh--got it. That's the trick--finding the signature you prefer, with top end technical performance. The amp is the missing piece of the puzzle for me at the moment. Not to get off track, but do you listen to the DA8 with the sharp or slow filter--or vary it depending on something in your chain or the source material?

post #144 of 644
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I second that.  I've also been eyeing the M9 as an upgrade to my Yulong A18 using the DA8 as a source.  I'm just hoping that the sound isn't as bright as the mjolnir I auditioned it with a couple weeks ago.

 



Brightness is a relative attribute and I haven't heard the Mjolnir but I'm very sensitive to brightness and I would say that the M9 isn't bright al all.
post #145 of 644
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I second that.  I've also been eyeing the M9 as an upgrade to my Yulong A18 using the DA8 as a source.  I'm just hoping that the sound isn't as bright as the mjolnir I auditioned it with a couple weeks ago.

 



Brightness is a relative attribute and I haven't heard the Mjolnir but I'm very sensitive to brightness and I would say that the M9 isn't bright al all.

That's good to hear as I'm pretty sensitive to brightness as well over longer periods of listening time.

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Looking forward to your perspective.

 

 

 

Ahh--got it. That's the trick--finding the signature you prefer, with top end technical performance. The amp is the missing piece of the puzzle for me at the moment. Not to get off track, but do you listen to the DA8 with the sharp or slow filter--or vary it depending on something in your chain or the source material?


95% of the time I listen to it with the slow filter, I find the sharp filter to be a bit harsh at times.  Have you previously owned the DA8?

post #146 of 644
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I'm preparing my response versus the GSX mk2 today - so that is coming soon (sorry for the delays).

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post #147 of 644
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Originally Posted by Maven86 View Post
 

...95% of the time I listen to it with the slow filter, I find the sharp filter to be a bit harsh at times.  Have you previously owned the DA8?

I was just auditioning it last weekend and think the slow/sharp filter is a nice feature to change the "flavor" of the sound without losing detail.

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Definitely, it's good to have options.  The DA8 has tons for the price :-).

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I owned a BHSE and SR-007 MK1, MK2, and 009 for quite a while.   I sold everything for a M9 and LCD-3 and I am looking into the LA900 as well.

 

After having lived with the BHSE system for many years and after having this new M9 system for about a month I can tell you that to my tastes the M9 system is more to my liking.   The BHSE system is SLIGHTLY more transparent, detailed, fast, and effortless.  However- in exchange for this minor downgrade in these four areas, the sound is much fuller, better  impact, much better bass response, and tonally so so much more beautiful to my ears.  I feel I gave in 5%-10% in technical abilities and gained 15%-20% in areas much more important to me.  To me- the M9 is a much more balanced system and much more convincing and pleasant to my ears.  I still believe the BHSE system is better for jazz, and symphony, however the M9 system is superior for everything else; and I listen 95% of the time to modern genres of music. 

 

Unless you are a symphony and jazz listener- don't buy the BHSE/007/009 system.  It is a downgrade and a waste of money.


Edited by rsbrsvp - 1/15/14 at 10:16pm
post #150 of 644
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I owned a BHSE and SR-007 MK1, MK2, and 009 for quite a while.   I sold everything for a M9 and LCD-3 and I am looking into the LA900 as well.

 

After having lived with the BHSE system for many years and after having this new M9 system for about a month I can tell you that to my tastes the M9 system is more to my liking.   The BHSE system is SLIGHTLY more transparent, detailed, fast, and effortless.  However- in exchange for this minor downgrade in these four areas, the sound is much fuller, better  impact, much better bass response, and tonally so so much more beautiful to my ears.  I feel I gave in 5%-10% in technical abilities and gained 15%-20% in areas much more important to me.  To me- the M9 is a much more balanced system and much more convincing and pleasant to my ears.  I still believe the BHSE system is better for jazz, and symphony, however the M9 system is superior for everything else; and I listen 95% of the time to modern genres of music. 

 

Unless you are a symphony and jazz listener- don't buy the BHSE/007/009 system.  It is a downgrade and a waste of money.


Sounds like the TRUTH to me. Enjoyed your thoughts. I'm looking at M9 + LCD-X as my end game.

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