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post #226 of 349
Ya, put jergpads on these for literally 30 seconds. Definitely agree they're a no go. Bass bleeds into the mids, mids became distant, treble just sounded off. Didn't analyze to well, but, ya don't do it.
post #227 of 349
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Originally Posted by abablitz View Post
 

Hi,

 

I currently have the Schiitz Vali + Modi Stack with the HD 650 and was looking into purchasing a complimentary headphone to listen to my music (predominantly pop, female vocals, etc) from a different perspective. I had heard that the HE-400s were complimentary to the HD 650, but are the HE-4's also complimentary or are they just an upgrade of the HD 650? Thanks. 

I actually would imagine that the HE-400 & the HD-650 are close enough that there is no need for both. There are definitely people who prefer one over another, but the general consensus seems to be that they are alternatives rather than compliments. I think for you, that the hd650 is probably the better choice for your music preferences.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/631682/he400-vs-hd650

http://thefoxdenblog.blogspot.com/2013/05/hifiman-he-400s-vs-sennheiser-hd650.html

http://www.head-fi.org/t/636629/sennheiesr-hd-650-vs-hifiman-he-400/75

 

I have never heard the HE-4, but a lot of people on this thread makes it sound like the HE-4 is a giant upgrade from the HE-400s. However, it sounds like you will probably need to upgrade your equipment if you want to experience its full sound potential (aka probably at least an additional $400+ on an amp plus the HE-4's $450 sticker price = $900ish = over the HE-500 & in Audeze LCD2 price range). not worth it in my opinion.

 

If you really want to upgrade/find a compliment pair of headphones, I think it would be most prudent to wait for the release of the HE400i which has easy amping requirements and would most likely improve on the HE-400's sound. Sticker price for the HE-400i may be around $500-ish I believe, so that would still be cheaper than the HE-4+amp, and it would most likely be a solid upgrade in sound quality from your current headphones. The HE-400i will be extremely easy to drive & have greatly improved comfort, so I think you will definitely enjoy those the most; especially coming from the extremely light HD650s with your current amp set-up.

 

My personal opinion of course :)


Edited by money4me247 - 1/29/14 at 8:47pm
post #228 of 349
No ....he4 wins.
post #229 of 349

Shoul I just return the vali and upgrade to an asguard 2? I already purchased the HE-4 so a little hesitant. Would the asguard suffice for it?

post #230 of 349
If you're going to spend that just buy an emotiva for now. Asgard won't cut it.
post #231 of 349
But realize its not an endgame amp.
post #232 of 349
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Originally Posted by abablitz View Post
 

Shoul I just return the vali and upgrade to an asguard 2? I already purchased the HE-4 so a little hesitant. Would the asguard suffice for it?

lol you are basically on an HE-4 appreciation thread soooo.....

 

I personally can't really imagine a good reason not to wait for the extremely-light, more-efficient, redesigned single magnet HE-400i for only $150 more. patience is a virtue after all lol.

 

however, I am sure the HE-4 are a great pair of headphones, so it's really no worries at the end of the day.

post #233 of 349
Screw the 400i. Speculation and no legit reviews mean nothing. The he4 is and always will be an awesome planar. To get that efficiency from a Single sided magnet mean hfm lost something along the way. I am willing to bet the he4 kills the 400i properly amped. I'm not hopping on that hype train like you sir. Once again, patience is a virtue, and no real reviews have came out yet. The he4 will hold its value. Not to mention I don't want that abyss looking monstrosity sitting atop my head
Edited by hemipowered007 - 1/29/14 at 9:18pm
post #234 of 349
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

Screw the 400i. Speculation and no legit reviews mean nothing. The he4 is and always will be an awesome planar. To get that efficiency from a Single sided magnet mean hfm lost something along the way. I am willing to bet the kills the 400i properly amped. I'm not hopping on that hype train like you sir.

lol... it's not jumping on a hype train. The improved comfort and improved efficiency are very real facts from user experiences at CES. Yes, the HE-400i's sound is still being tuned or whatever, but waiting to see what your options are is much smarter than throwing down money & regretting it later. After the 400i is out & you decide you still prefer the HE-4, you can snipe the HE-4 at a cheaper price as well. It's really a no-lose situation.

 

Blindly betting that the HE-4 will outperform the HE-400i when there is only "speculation & no legit reviews" out yet is simply foolish IMO. Claiming that your personal pick of headphones is the best before anyone has heard the sound of the updated pair of single-sided maggies is the definition of hopping on a hype train lol :p

 

Edit: I am not saying anything negative about the HE-4, I am simply advising to wait for the newer models to come out before making a choice as they are only 1-2 months away from being released. You have to realize how biased & silly the recommendation to simply buy the HE-4 without waiting sounds especially when the user does not even currently have the proper amping requirements for the HE-4...


Edited by money4me247 - 1/29/14 at 9:28pm
post #235 of 349
Have you listened to the he4?
post #236 of 349
Oh didn't think so
post #237 of 349

I just got my HE-4 today which came from China, not bought used. I am not sure about this burn in people talk about, but if this system will sound better after more listening, that would be cool.  It is light enough for me. I don't see how the weight of these cans can be a problem unless your neck is made out of spaghetti. So far they sound awesome from my Project Ember amp which only cost $325+shipping. 

post #238 of 349
Deleted due to my bad attitude
Edited by hemipowered007 - 1/29/14 at 9:31pm
post #239 of 349
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

Have you listened to the he4? Oh didn't think so. Go back to your CES club...leave the he4 enthusiasts alone

Lol. have you heard the he-400i?

 

no offense, but these kinds of comments from "he-4 enthusiasts" really makes them sound really extremely biased. When is it a bad idea in the audiophile hobby to try other equipment before settling on what you like? On this thread, there seems to be a lot of intolerance towards any other opinions that is not raving about how the HE-4 is simply god's gift to mankind. If you are attacking me for recommending waiting to try out other headphones before getting the HE-4.......... o.0?

 

note: the question I was responding to was someone looking for a "complimentary" pair of headphones to the HD650... he wasn't even looking for an upgrade or anything specific. Spending $850+ to get the right amp + the HE-4 is extremely excessive for someone looking to just find a different sound signature. There are a ton of options out there. The HE-4 is not the right answer for every users' needs.


Edited by money4me247 - 1/29/14 at 9:42pm
post #240 of 349
Go back to ces
Edited by hemipowered007 - 1/29/14 at 9:40pm
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