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post #121 of 147
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Shocking. lol

I'd like to see what he thinks of the HD800 lol.  "There's no depth!" AKA "It has treble!"  Can't imagine that he would even like the LCD-2, which is considered one of the darkest hi-fi headphones.  Sennheiser Orpheus?  Forget that, there is treble.

 

Momentum is too bright?  Not even with a 6 Db boost.

 

Take all of this with a grain of salt unless you are incredibly sensitive to treble.

post #122 of 147
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For the last hour I've been comparing more HD598 to Shure and to HD380 for classical music at normal volume .... very different result. HD380 is still nice but I see how Sennheiser and Shure are more natural sounding. HD380 now sounds a bit more boomy where it doesn't need to.

 

I think when people compare and rate for others to get something out of it some questions need to be answered, such as ... what volume level are you listening to, what kind of music you listen to, the source, etc.

 

I think that those other models (except HD380) are more detailed because of the highs and once you increase the sound too much, now that "detail" is what's making your ears hurt.

 

Again ... it normal volume, for classical music that I just listened to I think that Shure and Sennheiser HD598 may sound better.

 

Tomorrow will do more testing with other music I listen to at normal volume

post #123 of 147
Most reviews on this site actually do include the source(s), track list, and sometimes the listening volume. Some even include the listening environment as that does impact the results on open headphones. You're also not giving your brain time to adjust to the different types of sound. While there is a burn in on headphones, there is also a burn in for your brain. This is why most people will listen to headphones for hours on end before they give reviews. Even A/Bing experts will listen to each headset for a couple hours a piece. You're basically throwing the headphone on for fifteen minutes and giving a vague description of what you are hearing mate. If you'd like to properly evaluate each of them you'll set up a general (all-round) playlist of several genres. Give your headphones adequate time to burn-in, and your brain the same amount of time to adjust to the sound. Otherwise you'll find it hard to upgrade to any higher end headphone.

Anyways, after saying all that, I want to say that if you're happy with your HD380's than your journey should end here for now. When you're ready for a new sound signature you should come back and pick up where you've left off.cool.gif
Edited by Vain III - 12/7/13 at 9:04pm
post #124 of 147
I was surprised that he rank the HD380 Pro better than the Momentum @.@ I didn't read in full detail though
post #125 of 147
In my experience the iPhone (4 & 4s) distorts audibly at full volume even with portable cans, to me its always been necessary to roll off to 70-80% or so to get rid of it.

To top it off, full volume on a momentum - you must be half deaf it you're fine with that for extended listening.
post #126 of 147
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Originally Posted by eccom View Post

In my experience the iPhone (4 & 4s) distorts audibly at full volume even with portable cans, to me its always been necessary to roll off to 70-80% or so to get rid of it.

To top it off, full volume on a momentum - you must be half deaf it you're fine with that for extended listening.

 

Nah...Momentum never went to full volume. You're right, they are louder than all others

 

oh and I have iPhone 5, not 4

post #127 of 147
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Had a friend over yesterday who ownes HD600 ..... started comparing his HD600 to HD598, momentum, Shure, HD380, etc ...

 

He ranked

 

His HD600 being the cleanest one (running from iPhone a 300 ohm can :-)

 

The HD598 in his opinion came close with some notes not being as natural as HD600 but definitely a bit more bass than HD600 ... (I think once he ads an amp, that bass would come back)

 

He really like Momentum for pop, dance, etc music on the go. Like ... really, really liked.

 

HD380 he felt was not as clear with high notes ... bass was the biggest but he said it wasn't too accurate. I start to see what he means again when you lower the volume to normal listening.

 

Grados he liked for some songs and disliked for others.

Shure he was cold to. Meaning ... not bad, not great.

 

 

I find that I am picking up the HD598 more and more and enjoying it more and more at lower volumes.

 

I'll be doing more comparison today.

 

My next purchase I was thinking about is Beyerdynamics 880 or 990 250 ohms. Problem is ... I think I can't get away not using an amp for those.

post #128 of 147
You don't really get away with using the hd600 from a phone either. Missing bass and collapsed staging with very poor imaging as a result.
post #129 of 147
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You don't really get away with using the hd600 from a phone either. Missing bass and collapsed staging with very poor imaging as a result.

 

100%. That's what I said to him and he knows.

However ... even without he amp he felt like HD600 sounded more real than 598.

It can also be him being used to his phones and him being a bit biased to pick his investment. :-)

post #130 of 147
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So, after clearing up some of my preferences and realizing better how I'll be using these cans ... simple question....

 

Unamped .... for Smooth Jazz, Classical, R&B type of music ... what are the best headphones?

volume = moderate to a bit more than moderate but not toooo loud.

post #131 of 147
Jazz and classical are really open headphone stuff. The r&b benefits from a bit of bass.

The Fidelio x1/L1/L2 or the sony MDR ma900 are a bit more bass heavy open cans that have low impedance and should run ok from an iPod.
post #132 of 147
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Jazz and classical are really open headphone stuff. The r&b benefits from a bit of bass.

The Fidelio x1/L1/L2 or the sony MDR ma900 are a bit more bass heavy open cans that have low impedance and should run ok from an iPod.


what about the Sennheiser HD598?

post #133 of 147

Not as much bass as these phones. The L1/L2 are dark phones that are semi-open made for mobile use.

The X1 is bigger an has more bass and treble. the HD598 is more mid/treble- focused.

The Sony's also have a bigger bass response.

 

the X1 is probably the "best", incuding the hd598 but it's at this point very much up to you to find the righ one for price and sound signature.

post #134 of 147
Sorry but I am not a fan of X1 for classical... Majority of the instruments in classical music may just get drowned by the big bass. Either way though, my impression with X1 are not that great frown.gif
post #135 of 147

Sennheiser Amperior may be what you're looking for, not sure if it's been mentioned or tested yet.  Prices are good now too as it's discontinued:

 

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-505573-Amperior-Headphones-Silver/dp/B009QV14MC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386632120&sr=8-1&keywords=sennheiser+amperior

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