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post #151 of 196
Oh ok sorry for my wrongful conclusion.

Al D
post #152 of 196
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Originally Posted by ardilla View Post

@SilentOne (or anyone)

1) There are 3 pinXLR outputs for headphones on the back?

2) What's the benefit of making wa5 a dual Monoblock as opposed to separate PSU construction? What are tre the downsides?

 

1. No. The WA5 mono blocks are speaker amps only, no Headphone Outputs. I'm modifying these to have L/R 4-pin XLR Headphone Outputs for full mono K1000 Output functionality. 

 

2. Pursuit. Though, simply splitting things up will likely add costs and nothing more. Mono blocks can provide the maker an opportunity to design a dedicated amp for a driver/speaker. Hopefully using better parts while in there, though that's not always the case. Also, monos make for shorter speaker runs. Some amps may/may not benefit from enhanced channel separation in mono config.

 

But this is a quick view from a speaker amp perspective. For headphones, doubtful. So, why do it? Pursuit. If there are ideals to be had, some people will chase. Despite lacking the ability to discern any differences.

post #153 of 196
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Ardilla.

My amp is not balanced , it has 3 sets of RCA inputs and speaker terminals all on the rear of the amp.

On the front it has a 1/4 stereo headphone jack and a 4 wire XlR . Label k2 k or something like that . The XlR is for hi power headphones. Like the HE6.

 

Yes, I knew the WA5 wasn't balanced

 

I was wondering about the WA5 monoblocks, if they have headphone connectors as well as speaker outbuts. The logical (since dual 3-pin XLR headphone cables are available) would then be to have speaker taps and an 3-pin XLR at the vack of the WA5 monoblock. 

 

I got the impression that there were XLR in and outs from SilentOne's answer here, http://www.head-fi.org/t/691974/woo-audio-comparison-thread/135#post_10057282

post #154 of 196
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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

 

1. No. The WA5 mono blocks are speaker amps only, no Headphone Outputs. I'm modifying these to have L/R 4-pin XLR Headphone Outputs for full mono K1000 Output functionality. 

 

2. Pursuit. Though, simply splitting things up will likely add costs and nothing more. Mono blocks can provide the maker an opportunity to design a dedicated amp for a driver/speaker. Hopefully using better parts while in there, though that's not always the case. Also, monos make for shorter speaker runs. Some amps may/may not benefit from enhanced channel separation in mono config.

 

But this is a quick view from a speaker amp perspective. For headphones, doubtful. So, why do it? Pursuit. If there are ideals to be had, some people will chase. Despite lacking the ability to discern any differences.

 

Since you loose something by having AC transformer in the same chassis, have you considered a mono-vlock with dual external PSU's?? WA5-Mono four chassis version? :cool:

post #155 of 196
i would like this clllarifed , i f need be i will email woo audio. i am just wondering and i am sure it sound great either way
post #156 of 196
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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

 

1. No. The WA5 mono blocks are speaker amps only, no Headphone Outputs. I'm modifying these to have L/R 4-pin XLR Headphone Outputs for full mono K1000 Output functionality. 

 

2. Pursuit. Though, simply splitting things up will likely add costs and nothing more. Mono blocks can provide the maker an opportunity to design a dedicated amp for a driver/speaker. Hopefully using better parts while in there, though that's not always the case. Also, monos make for shorter speaker runs. Some amps may/may not benefit from enhanced channel separation in mono config.

 

But this is a quick view from a speaker amp perspective. For headphones, doubtful. So, why do it? Pursuit. If there are ideals to be had, some people will chase. Despite lacking the ability to discern any differences.

SO, why using a 4 pin XLR in each monoblock? You are going to be using just 2 pins on each. You can even use 1 TRS female connection on each one and will probably be easier and cheaper.

post #157 of 196
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Originally Posted by musicman59 View Post
 

SO, why using a 4 pin XLR in each monoblock? You are going to be using just 2 pins on each. You can even use 1 TRS female connection on each one and will probably be easier and cheaper.

 

I would be thinking a 3 pin XLR in each (even though you only need 2 pins on each) would be practical beacuse of the availability of cables with dual 3-pin XLRs

 

But I see Woo use TRS-adapters on the 234

 

post #158 of 196
Thread Starter 
The WA 234 uses twin TRS adapters and I am using a single ended adapter for the headphones like show in the picture. Works well
post #159 of 196

It can be done that way or using independent cables per side with mono TRS plug in each one to avoid the extra mechanical connection of the adapter.

post #160 of 196
Thread Starter 

Thanks Jose 

post #161 of 196
Thread Starter 

  Western Electric tennis ball vacuum...    These are very interesting tubes. Wish there was something to play them in. Early 1900 somewhere around 1916 used for plane sin WW1. These have no base but there are a few for sale on Ebay that do have bases


Edited by Frank I - 12/12/13 at 11:50am
post #162 of 196
Thread Starter 

 

I have been kisting to the Woo DAC all day.   Spending the day today with music files
 

Edited by Frank I - 12/12/13 at 11:55am
post #163 of 196
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Originally Posted by musicman59 View Post
 

SO, why using a 4 pin XLR in each monoblock? You are going to be using just 2 pins on each. You can even use 1 TRS female connection on each one and will probably be easier and cheaper.

 

This is only suggested and neither final or critical really. My Headphone cable terminates with male 4-pin XLR plug. Once cabling leaves split from female 4-pin XLR adapter to amps, those terminations are left to choice. My wording is for illustration purposes only. I'm even considering 5-way binding posts instead. With current Wireworld pigtails, I wouldn't have to add :wink_face:any adapters or tips. 

post #164 of 196
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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

 

This is only suggested and neither final or critical really. My Headphone cable terminates with male 4-pin XLR plug. Once cabling leaves split from female 4-pin XLR adapter to amps, those terminations are left to choice. My wording is for illustration purposes only. I'm even considering 5-way binding posts instead. With current Wireworld pigtails, I wouldn't have to add :wink_face:any adapters or tips. 

I always wondered what the 5th way is?

 

http://cdn.avsforum.com/1/14/14741a68_5-waybindingpost.jpeg

post #165 of 196
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Originally Posted by ardilla View Post

 

Since you loose something by having AC transformer in the same chassis, have you considered a mono-vlock with dual external PSU's?? WA5-Mono four chassis version? :cool:

 

Same chassis... split chassis... yes, pros and cons live for both. But each have their feet tied to the same fire of design - good or bad design and well or poor execution. For example, proper isolation? In your view, what's being lost? 

 

Have to admit, one night I thought I saw a four chassis version at the foot of the bed... I eventually fell back to sleep, though. :normal_smile : 

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