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Audio-Technica ATH-ADG1 vs Sennheiser PC 360 vs Astro A40 2013

post #1 of 11
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I'm looking at these headphones for gaming, my budget is $300-350 (Australian Dollars) which one is overall better for gaming?

 

 

ATH-ADG1 = $279.00

Astro A40 + mixamp = $299.00

Sennheiser PC 360 =$299.00 (2/17/14)

 

 

For people saying say buy a Ad700X and add a mic ,listen to the ADG1's mic :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ursLrS3wSMo

Whole video was record with the mic


Edited by audioneeb115 - 2/17/14 at 2:56am
post #2 of 11

As I'm sure many people will tell you, if you purchase a headset, you're gonna be paying way too much. I would say skip both of them, and purchase a pair of AD700s and get a clip on mic. I also love Beyers for gaming, my DT770/80s are absolutely a blast to use for gaming. If you want more accuracy in sound directions, you can even grab some DT880s. All in all, however, like I said before I wouldn't suggest either of the two. BUT, and I understand how some people work, if you are positive on purchasing one or the other, for god's sake do not get the Astros. 

post #3 of 11

The ATH-ADG1 are likely to have the same drivers as the ATH-AD700X (which everyone loves for gaming), so as for quality for gaming I don't think you can go past them. If you buy the ATH-ADG1 they come with a USB-DAC, which is likely better than your default soundcard and good enough for the headphones. As for the recommendation that you should get the AD700 (or AD700x) and get a clip on mic, this is what I did and got the recommended Zalman clipon and it was worse than a cheap desktop mic I had for years. It is a cumbersome solution, and with the quality expected out of the ADG1, I expect it to stop being suggested. I ended up getting a Blue Snowflake, which is an excellent mic if you are willing to pay.

 

One thing I will note is that you really shouldn't pay Australian prices for either of those headphones. The ADG1/AG1s come out on December 13th for the rest of the world, and you will probably be able to get them for significantly cheaper than the AU price, I would say closer to $200. If you can't wait, get them without the Xonar D1, should be able to get them delivered for under $300 through pccasegear.

post #4 of 11

Yeah, I went the Zalman clip-on mic way as well and the mic is atrocious. It's amazingly sensitive to everything around it, except your voice. Uni-directional mics can work, but the Zalman clip-on doesn't cancel any noise so if you turn up your voice volume you're just pissing off your friends. I have to mute my mic if I'm writing on my keyboard for a prolonged period of time because my friends can hear every keystroke.


Edited by Bi0HaZard - 11/25/13 at 3:28am
post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by dub Beatz View Post
 

As I'm sure many people will tell you, if you purchase a headset, you're gonna be paying way too much. I would say skip both of them, and purchase a pair of AD700s and get a clip on mic. I also love Beyers for gaming, my DT770/80s are absolutely a blast to use for gaming. If you want more accuracy in sound directions, you can even grab some DT880s. All in all, however, like I said before I wouldn't suggest either of the two. BUT, and I understand how some people work, if you are positive on purchasing one or the other, for god's sake do not get the Astros. 

I live in Australia so you have to do currency exchange to US dollars and the DT880s is $400 here(Australian stuff is much more expensive than the US. The Ad700 is ugly but i can accept the AD700x. Finally the ADG1 is $279.00 AUD by its self

post #6 of 11

All in all, however, like I said before I wouldn't suggest either of the two. BUT, and I understand how some people work, if you are positive on purchasing one or the other, for god's sake do not get the Astros. 

hDIQWz

post #7 of 11

Um, the ATH-ADG1 looks EXACTLY like the 700X with a mic.  I bet it's just a modified 700X.  Get the 700X and save the money by buying a separate mic.

 

I use my HD650 and Beyer DT990Pro with a beaming mic.  Problem when you get into using high impedance headphones is powering them.  Most sound cards don't have the juice, and the ones that claim to have the juice do not sound nearly as good as a true headphone amp.  And...most external DACs do not process surround sound.  So gamers with a desire for good sound and good surround performance are stuck.  I personally get the best results when I spdif to my Yamaha integrated amplifier.  My Yamaha has a great headphone AMP, and Yamaha has some of the best surround field imaging around.  It'd be great to have an external DAC that has surround processing integration.  Dolby and DTS both would be nice.  If such a product were to hit the market, I'd be VERY interested.

post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by Eargasmo View Post
 

Um, the ATH-ADG1 looks EXACTLY like the 700X with a mic.  I bet it's just a modified 700X.  Get the 700X and save the money by buying a separate mic.

 

I use my HD650 and Beyer DT990Pro with a beaming mic.  Problem when you get into using high impedance headphones is powering them.  Most sound cards don't have the juice, and the ones that claim to have the juice do not sound nearly as good as a true headphone amp.  And...most external DACs do not process surround sound.  So gamers with a desire for good sound and good surround performance are stuck.  I personally get the best results when I spdif to my Yamaha integrated amplifier.  My Yamaha has a great headphone AMP, and Yamaha has some of the best surround field imaging around.  It'd be great to have an external DAC that has surround processing integration.  Dolby and DTS both would be nice.  If such a product were to hit the market, I'd be VERY interested.

From my experience, you do not need an amp with surround sound. For instance, listen to this. If the audio was better, one could be tricked into thinking this was going on in real time in real life.

  

post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by audioneeb115 View Post
 

I'm looking at these headphones for gaming, my budget is $300-350 (Australian Dollars) which one is overall better for gaming?

 

 

ATH-ADG1 = $279.00

Astro A40 + mixamp = $299.00

Sennheiser PC 360 =$299.00 (2/17/14)

 

 

For people saying say buy a Ad700X and add a mic ,listen to the ADG1's mic :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ursLrS3wSMo

Whole video was record with the mic


After having heard all 3 of those headphones as well as the beyerdynamic mmx300's i went with the ATH-ADG1 due to its fantastic comfort and soundstage. Some people say its overpriced but audio technica claims it has a $120 mic on it so when you add that to the price of some AD700's it comes fairly close to the retail price.

The PC-360's are very nice sounding but i felt they had a smaller soundstage and were not as comfortable for me. I found the A40's to be inferior in most aspects the only thing great is the mixamp that comes with them and i was actually going to order the mixamp by itself till i found the Soundblaster Omni Surround 5.1 which looks to be just as good but cheaper.

post #10 of 11

Just read this thread, I have been looking at the ADG1's and the PC360's...I am leaning towards the ADG1's but would like to try them first. Anyone have any ideas where I can try a set in Sydney?

post #11 of 11

I have both the HD598 and the A700x ... 

 

if you only want competitive gaming go with the audio-technica...as it has low bass and with low bass you can locate sounds around you better ... 

 

HD598 has more neutral bass definitely, same sound-stage and is brighter.....

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