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post #166 of 220

The P2 is so full of switches, it's worth checking now and then they are all in their optimal position. My balance/laterality switch was not in the center "off" position, and returning it there added a nice but slight touch of transparency. And you may guess that I never use the Matrix with HD800. 

post #167 of 220
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Yes. It sounds wonderful. Certainly makes going balanced worth the extra cash for the cable.

You will need this cable from Peter at Double Helix cables

Can you help with some specifics on this? Just received my P2 and would like to use the balanced outs on the headamp with my LCD-3 (4 pin male). Having a tough time finding options that are not astronomical in cost. Thanks!

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post #169 of 220
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/151329880012?nav=SEARCH

$80

Thanks for this. Do you know the seller?

 

Materials seem like quality and the price is not ridiculous.

post #170 of 220
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Thanks for this. Do you know the seller?

Materials seem like quality and the price is not ridiculous.

No, just saw it in passing while looking for a decent HD800 cable. The cable looks like basic Canare Star Quad or similar. No frills...

I am a horrible cable person for a Headfier. I stay out of the great cable debate, but buy cables for both their utility and their pretty factor. I don't think I have enough experience or patience to listen to cables rather than music. smily_headphones1.gif

If you buy this cable, let us know if it works out and how's the build quality. Just wish someone would make a cheaper 4-pin to dual 3-pin adaptor (and the reverse)... one can dream.
post #171 of 220
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111250800468?redirect=mobile

Awesome! These guys have finally gone balanced!

I own a few of their cables. This seller has fast shipping and build quality is darn impressive. I am curious to see if they make this with HD800 connectors...

I will warn you, this style of cable has some pretty bad microphonics if you move around alot while listening. Besides that, I see no negatives from my purchases from this seller...
post #172 of 220
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No, just saw it in passing while looking for a decent HD800 cable. The cable looks like basic Canare Star Quad or similar. No frills...

I am a horrible cable person for a Headfier. I stay out of the great cable debate, but buy cables for both their utility and their pretty factor. I don't think I have enough experience or patience to listen to cables rather than music. smily_headphones1.gif

If you buy this cable, let us know if it works out and how's the build quality. Just wish someone would make a cheaper 4-pin to dual 3-pin adaptor (and the reverse)... one can dream.

Yes, it is a Canare cable. That is a high quality cable. I'm a utility guy as well. I'll leave it at that. Will be happy to share my thoughts if I do purchase this. Thanks.

post #173 of 220
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/111250800468?redirect=mobile

Awesome! These guys have finally gone balanced!

I own a few of their cables. This seller has fast shipping and build quality is darn impressive. I am curious to see if they make this with HD800 connectors...

I will warn you, this style of cable has some pretty bad microphonics if you move around alot while listening. Besides that, I see no negatives from my purchases from this seller...

Not crazy about these type of sellers, but if you've had good experiences that's encouraging. I need a longer cord (they seem to max out at 2.5 meters) though maybe they'd customize a set. 

 

The Phonitor 2 would still require a pair of gender changers to make all of these cables work. I think it's lame that SPL does not include an adapter at this price point.

 

How long have you had these cables? How much have you had to pay in additional charges (customs, etc.)?  Thanks

post #174 of 220
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Not crazy about these type of sellers, but if you've had good experiences that's encouraging. I need a longer cord (they seem to max out at 2.5 meters) though maybe they'd customize a set. 

The Phonitor 2 would still require a pair of gender changers to make all of these cables work. I think it's lame that SPL does not include an adapter at this price point.

How long have you had these cables? How much have you had to pay in additional charges (customs, etc.)?  Thanks

My cables have always been the 1.2m since I have a Grado extension for living room listening...

I've never had any customs on any EBay items... (Live in the Midwest)

Holy Carp! I didn't realize SPL had the output configured that way... You may be able to request one of those two sellers just create your cable with opposite connectors.
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post #175 of 220
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I am a horrible cable person for a Headfier. I stay out of the great cable debate, but buy cables for both their utility and their pretty factor. I don't think I have enough experience or patience to listen to cables rather than music.

 

Exactly that :-)

Nice cables are... nice. But music is the point.

 

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Holy Carp! I didn't realize SPL had the output configured that way... You may be able to request one of those two sellers just create your cable with opposite connectors.

 

Now, that output is primarily intended for active speakers I guess... Don't forget this thing is designed for studio use. And audio out on XLR is always male in pro context.

Yes, requesting a specific adapter made for this scenario is definitely better than additional connections when using a gender changer.

post #176 of 220
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Holy Carp! I didn't realize SPL had the output configured that way... You may be able to request one of those two sellers just create your cable with opposite connectors.

Already done and received a response from Chris at Charleston Cable. 

 

While I can understand that avoiding the addition of an adapter is preferable from a theoretical standpoint, I wonder if it has audible degradation. Reason I ask is that Chris offered that if I wanted to purchase a balanced cable terminated with a 4-pin xlr, he'd be willing to include a matching 4-pin xlr to dual 3-pin adapter for a nominal fee. This would give me pretty much universal compatibility with most standard balanced amplifiers.

 

Otherwise I could have a custom cable made to terminate in dual 3 pin female XLR to connect directly to the Phonitor 2.

 

Thoughts?

post #177 of 220

Is the Phonitor 2 fully balanced?

post #178 of 220
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Is the Phonitor 2 fully balanced?







If you check the specifications you will see that it has one set of single-ended (phono) inputs on the back, in addition to the 2 sets of balance inputs.  Also, you will see that it has a normal 1/4 inch single-ended headphone socket on the front panel.



Otherwise you will need to further define "fully".

post #179 of 220
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Originally Posted by Shaker View Post

 

Is the Phonitor 2 fully balanced?

 



If you check the specifications you will see that it has one set of single-ended (phono) inputs on the back, in addition to the 2 sets of balance inputs.  Also, you will see that it has a normal 1/4 inch single-ended headphone socket on the front panel.

 

Otherwise you will need to further define "fully".

Well aware of the inputs/outputs. What is not clear nor specified by SPL, is if the signal remains split within the Phonitor 2 -- unlikely due to all of its processing options, though I could be wrong since I have not seen their circuit.  As an example, the Mjolnir is unusual in that it remains balanced throughout.

 

Anyone?

post #180 of 220
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Well aware of the inputs/outputs. What is not clear nor specified by SPL, is if the signal remains split within the Phonitor 2 -- unlikely due to all of its processing options, though I could be wrong since I have not seen their circuit.  As an example, the Mjolnir is unusual in that it remains balanced throughout.

Anyone?
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I talked with the US Phonitor Rep at SPL and he recommended balanced in, and either balanced or single ended out. He thought balanced was always better. However he was demoing the Phonitor 2 with the LCX single ended, and it sounded superb. I'm using mine by connecting the balanced out on my Sony SACD player directly to the Phonitor 2, and single ended phone connection using the K812 or HD800. Both sound better than I have ever heard them based on the equipment I have owned in the past.
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