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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

Mine just arrived.  Impressions and review will follow in due course.


You lucky, lucky barstard! LOL

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Hi,

 

Have anyone try pairing the X1 with M50 or Hfi 780? Mine still struck at the china customs since last week. cant wait to get my hands on this!

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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

Mine just arrived.  Impressions and review will follow in due course.

Looking forward to it.
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My delivery date from Amazon is now supposed to be Oct 9.

I was searching on the web for advantages/disadvantages of the TI PCM5142 DAC chip used in the X1 vs the Wolfson WM8740 used in the X3.
It appears that the X1 is so far the first and only portable player to use the PCM5142 or do you know of any other devices?

What I gathered from HTML.datasheet.com the Wolfson DAC has a considerably better Signal to Noise Ratio of 117db with a single WM8740 and 120db if two DAC chips (one for each channel) are used vs. a SNR ratio of only 112 db for the PCM5142 used in the X1. The often used SABRE ES9023 also "only" has a SNR of 112 db according to html.datasheet.com.
Of course most people probably won't be able yo hear this difference in SNR... For comparison GSM Arena measured the iphone 4S with a total SNR (not just its Cirrus DAC but all components measured at the headphone jack) of 91.2 db.

A strength of the PCM5142 appears to be its integrated PLL clock when using it as a USB DAC, also its DSP capabilities and like the SABRE DAC a simplified design can be used as there is no need for blocking capacitors and it has an integrated charge pump . The DSP of the PCM5142 can possibly be programmed to give the X1 it's "younger" (=more bass?) sound (even though preliminary measurements seem to indicate frequency response is fairly flat).
And of course its lower price of ca 3 USD per chip when compared to the Wolfson DAC.
The Wolfson chip appears to have its strengths in its internal digital filtering capabilities.

It appears that FIIO used the PCM5142 instead as first communicated the WM8740 (used in the X3) to
A) save cost and simplify the design
B) still be able to sell the more expensive X3 and X5 because who would buy those if the DAC / sound quality of the X1 was as good as that of the X3 and X5?

Just my two cents - what do you think?
Edited by CarstenF - 10/6/14 at 8:03pm
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After a small delay in Hong Kong due to "public holiday" (demonstrations) the x1 has landed down under

I have been an ipod/ iTunes guy for ever but Apple seems of late to have forgotten me

After much deep thought I decided to look for a new way

Unsure of how this new way would integrate with the old way (iTunes) I was hesitant

Enter the x1 , at the price even if things did not work out I would not lose much

My micro sd card arrived last week and it was quite easy to copy and paste a folder of mixed ALAC tracks

This morning the x1 was delivered and I immediately applied the carbon skin and clicked in the card

Switched on and with my IM70's attached I went to the folder icon all the tracks came up so I hit play

All my fears melted away one track then the next no bugs no head scratching

Seamless shifting from 24bit to 16bit and back, great controls, sound and build quality

Congratulations FIIO the x1 appears to be selling as fast as you can build them and deservedly so

BUY ONE

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Pairing the X1 with the C5D is a fantstic combo if anyone is looking for a small amp about the same size as the Fiio. Using the LO on the Fiio seems to be the way to go.
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Has anyone tried pairing the X1 with the Cayin C5?

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This morning the x1 was delivered and I immediately applied the carbon skin (...)

 

I for one would very much like to see some pics :D

 

glad you are liking it! mine is still about a month away :frown: 

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Fiio X1 in carbon skin

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@Dogmatrix...very nice
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Quick question for those that have their X1s.

 

I just tried making a playlist externally - exactly same method we use on our X5s. I then navigated to the folder I have it in, and it won't recognise the playlist file.  I've tried the same file in my X5 - and it has no issues.

 

Is there no playlist support (outside the favourites folder) yet on the X1?

 

Joe / James - is there anything planned with future firmware releases?

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This unit needs a faster way to scroll when browsing files..takes me like a minute to get half way down the list of songs.
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Originally Posted by Dogmatrix View Post

Fiio X1 in carbon skin




Are they textured skin?

I am so gonna stick carbon on mine when it arrived biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by BillsonChang007 View Post


Are they textured skin?

I am so gonna stick carbon on mine when it arrived biggrin.gif


There is a slight texture just enough to catch the light

Not the best faux carbon I've seen but not the worst

Nice quality, easy to apply/reapply no bubbles 

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I posted this in our tour discussion thread - and they are just initial musings - but thought you guys might be interested.

 


OK - sorry for the photos - they're 1200 x 800, and clickable, but the lighting was pretty ordinary, and there is quite a bit of glare and grain - and I'll do something much better for the reviews.

 

Really early impressions - size is excellent - perfect for on the go.  Very intuitive interface, coming from the X5, and I'm having no issues getting around the menus etc.  Some really nice choices with the software set-up etc (like you can't switch the output from jack to line whilst the player is playing).

 

This little sucker is powerful too - nowhere near as good as the X5 in that department, but no sluggard.  For tonight's test, I just threw a toughie at it.  X5 vs X1, volume matched with an SPL meter, both driving the HD600 - yep, not a fair fight really (or so you'd think).

 

Really surprised how good they both sound, and how close.  X1 might have a tiny bit less bass (which I'd expect), but it's marginal. To be honest I could live with either if I was just jamming out.

 

Right now, I've connected the E11K to the X1, and because I'm shagged (away next 4 days with US visitors so I've been putting in a lot of hours prep), I've stopped the critical listening, and am just listening to the combo with HD600 - still playing Dire Straits.  Guess what - it's good, no it's great - I can't believe this USD160 set-up sounds as good as it does with the HD600.  I still need to compare it to a full sized amp to get a decent base line - but that will come in the weekend.

 

Anyway - you guys are in for a treat.  Fiio have done some great things here.

 

Joe - this one is for you (see the photos).  The E11K is the perfect size for the X1 - and should be the perfect accompaniment - especially on price factor as well.  The problem is that if you use bands to pair them up - they cover the buttons.  Not an ideal situation.  Need a correctly sized stacker kit specifically designed for X1 and E11K.  Make sure you allow for the E11K having feet attached whilst stacking.  I'd buy one straight away.

 

Photos below - click for the larger images.  Again sorry about the lighting ....

 

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