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post #2431 of 7658

How is the sensitivity to poor tagging on the X1? (Many people with X3 and X5 had to clean up their tags - usually large images or unusual characters - to keep the DAP from freezing.)  I imagine many new-to-FiiO X1 owners will be importing files that played fine in other players.

post #2432 of 7658

I don't buy from Amazon anymore.  Not since they started charging tax even though my state has no laws for such a tax.  Purchased mine from Micca and had it cross country in under four days from ship.  Good Luck!

post #2433 of 7658

please help for me .....I buy fiio x1 or x5?thanks

post #2434 of 7658
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Originally Posted by SallymaeHogsby View Post
 

How is the sensitivity to poor tagging on the X1? (Many people with X3 and X5 had to clean up their tags - usually large images or unusual characters - to keep the DAP from freezing.)  I imagine many new-to-FiiO X1 owners will be importing files that played fine in other players.

 

Mine just froze trying to scan a 64GB micro sd :(.

I don't feel like editing my music files for a dap I might not probably won't keep, so for now I'll just use the file browser.


Edited by RoMee - 9/25/14 at 12:41pm
post #2435 of 7658

For those still waiting, I walked in from work about 15 minutes ago to find a package from Micca Store (Tinbel) with my X1 inside.  I'm in Rhode Island and the package shipped from Pennsylvania.  I placed the order this past Sunday (21st) with the free shipping on Micca Store's site.  I never received any type of shipment confirmation, and my order still says "Processing" on their website.

post #2436 of 7658
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Originally Posted by ccfixx View Post
 

For those still waiting, I walked in from work about 15 minutes ago to find a package from Micca Store (Tinbel) with my X1 inside.  I'm in Rhode Island and the package shipped from Pennsylvania.  I placed the order this past Sunday (21st) with the free shipping on Micca Store's site.  I never received any type of shipment confirmation, and my order still says "Processing" on their website.

 

LOL.  I ordered on the same date, from the same store, and I'm in the same state as you.  I just received mine today as well.  However, I did receice a tracking number on Monday. 

 

Mine is carging atm. 

post #2437 of 7658
See, it all worked out, no reason to have been upset smily_headphones1.gif
post #2438 of 7658

My X1 from Micca store just arrived in Upstate NY this afternoon. I will be giving a more thorough report soon, but I think a few initial impressions are in order.  I am quite impressed with the packaging and the fit and finish of the player itself. It's a little brick that fits well in the hand and the black rubber cover fits well and is comfy.This is one seriously nice looking little dap for $100. The display and buttons work pretty well, but the UI is just a bit clunky and somewhat counterintuitive. It took me a while to get the hang of navigating, but once learned, I don't think this should be an issue for most users.

 

I have a Hidizs AP100 coming, but currently, the only thing I have to compare it to is a rockboxed Clip+ played through a SMSL SAP-5 with Havi B3 Pro 1's.  When I first fired it up with the Havis, I was dissapointed.  The soundstage was very forward, almost in your face,the top end was harsh, irritating actually, and the midrange was dry, almost clinical.  Nevertheless, there was a clarity and precision that was unmistakable, so I knew this guy had some promise. I figured that it needed some break in time so I let it run for a few hours and then came back to listen again.  The top end was starting to smooth out but it was still a little harsh compared to the Clip+ SAP-5 combo and the midrange still lacked bloom.   The soundstage had receded a small amount, but still it was more forward then Clip-SAP.  The added detail and speed of attack was very evident...this guy seems to have a lot of energy, pace, and resolves fine details much better than Clip-SAP.  

 

I then ran the HO into the SAP-5 to see what difference that would make and wow, a very big difference.  The speed and detail stayed pretty much the same, but the tonal balance and harshness improved dramatically. The soundstage widened a bit and moved back just enough to be comfortable for me.  I am more and more impressed with the SAP-5 and if things don't change with extensive break in, I will be paring it with the X1 permanently. When I used the LO into the SAP-5, things got just a little better in all areas.  I wasn't using any EQ in HO, so its just the purity and shorter signal path of the LO that I'm hearing.  The SAP-5 smooths the top end and adds a little meat to the midrange bones...ahhhh, some bloom.  

 

It might be that Havi thing -- they just sound better with an amp -- but the difference with the SAP-5 is dramatic enough that I just wouldn't be happy listening to the X1 without it.  Things may change a little after running this thing in for many more hours, but I kind of doubt it will be a big enough change for me to be comfortable running the Havis straight from the HO. 


Edited by stuartmc - 9/27/14 at 2:54am
post #2439 of 7658
Looks like I'll need to break down and get an amp once my h3 arrive :3
post #2440 of 7658
Hi all,

I am currently making a tentative start to upgrading my listening experience from the standard smartphone and lower end Sennheiser set-up. I've bought an X1 and a pair of Phillips Fidelio M1s to dip my toes.

At the moment I have a large box of CDs and a hard drive full of crappy 128 mp3s.

Is there any point in converting CDs to FLAC, or are they already at a lower SQ? If so, for my existing library, would it make more sense to rip to 320 mp3 instead?

(Mods.. sorry if this isn't perhaps the exact right thread for this question but I'm interested in the context of my only equipment being an X1 for now)
post #2441 of 7658
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Originally Posted by tangefloss View Post

Hi all,

I am currently making a tentative start to upgrading my listening experience from the standard smartphone and lower end Sennheiser set-up. I've bought an X1 and a pair of Phillips Fidelio M1s to dip my toes.

At the moment I have a large box of CDs and a hard drive full of crappy 128 mp3s.

Is there any point in converting CDs to FLAC, or are they already at a lower SQ? If so, for my existing library, would it make more sense to rip to 320 mp3 instead?

(Mods.. sorry if this isn't perhaps the exact right thread for this question but I'm interested in the context of my only equipment being an X1 for now)

Well, ripping your own CDs is the best way to get FLAC files ;) My recommendation though, would be to rip a CD in FLAC and 320kbps and see if you can hear a difference. FLACs do take up quite a bit more space than MP3s, so if you can't hear a difference, it may be better for you to just rip them to 320kbps (or maybe even lower) instead so you can fit more music on your micro SD card.

post #2442 of 7658
Thanks Clee...I wasn't sure if the quality of a CD was already lower and therefore no point to FLAC. Like I said, this is new to me.

I did some 320 mp3s and have been playing them through an old Creative X-Fi with a pair of Sennheiser HD201s and I have already noticed a major difference. I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on the X1 and the Fidelios.

I have a feeling this will be a cheap start, expensive ending kinda journey.
post #2443 of 7658
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Originally Posted by clee290 View Post
 

Well, ripping your own CDs is the best way to get FLAC files ;) My recommendation though, would be to rip a CD in FLAC and 320kbps and see if you can hear a difference. FLACs do take up quite a bit more space than MP3s, so if you can't hear a difference, it may be better for you to just rip them to 320kbps (or maybe even lower) instead so you can fit more music on your micro SD card.


Seconded, I persoanlly am Rocking a 16GB iPod mini right now, and with about 100-120 ALAC Files and around 200 more 320kbps MP3 and 256kbps AAC, I have a cool 9.2GB free out of 14.4GB. Ripping to either one is fine, but I simply prefer having lossless files and going from there, even if I can't tell a difference.

post #2444 of 7658

@tangefloss

 

If you've got access to a PC - I'd suggest you have a read of this : http://www.head-fi.org/t/655879/setting-up-an-abx-test-simple-guide-to-ripping-tagging-transcoding

 

Gives you a guide to setting up an ABX test - as well as some useful pointers on ripping and tagging.

 

As clee290 above suggested - take the time to test yourself properly - and see what your transparency threshold is.  For me personally, aac256 is transparent (I can't tell the difference between it and lossless - if transcoded properly from the same master).  Test yourself - find your limits - and then make the decision based on how much storage you have, how much room you need, and what is audibly transparent for your ears.

 

Above all - ignore what everyone else says about format A or format B being better (especially if they're talking hi-res).  The secret here is what YOU can hear.

 

To give you an example - on my X5, all my tracks are in FLAC format 16/44.1.  I even transcoded any higher res recordings to same format - simply because then everything matches.  I do this because I have space, and there is no reason not to.  For my iPhone though, I use aac256.  I really enjoy both - and have never stopped to think that the aac256 is audibly inferior.  Why? Simply because I already know that for my ears they both sound the same - the only difference is the player - not the format.

 

Hope that helps.

post #2445 of 7658
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

@tangefloss

 

If you've got access to a PC - I'd suggest you have a read of this : http://www.head-fi.org/t/655879/setting-up-an-abx-test-simple-guide-to-ripping-tagging-transcoding

 

Gives you a guide to setting up an ABX test - as well as some useful pointers on ripping and tagging.

 

As clee290 above suggested - take the time to test yourself properly - and see what your transparency threshold is.  For me personally, aac256 is transparent (I can't tell the difference between it and lossless - if transcoded properly from the same master).  Test yourself - find your limits - and then make the decision based on how much storage you have, how much room you need, and what is audibly transparent for your ears.

 

Above all - ignore what everyone else says about format A or format B being better (especially if they're talking hi-res).  The secret here is what YOU can hear.

 

To give you an example - on my X5, all my tracks are in FLAC format 16/44.1.  I even transcoded any higher res recordings to same format - simply because then everything matches.  I do this because I have space, and there is no reason not to.  For my iPhone though, I use aac256.  I really enjoy both - and have never stopped to think that the aac256 is audibly inferior.  Why? Simply because I already know that for my ears they both sound the same - the only difference is the player - not the format.

 

Hope that helps.


Again seconded, if space is a premium using the transparent lossy codec should be fine once to yours ears it is. Many people will debate over lossy vs lossless but in the end its all up to the user.I use ALAC where possible on my iPods and 320kbps MP3 on my BlackBerry 9000.

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