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You are probably in a better mood today or something.


I'm always in a good mood when listening to music, that's why I'm on Head Fi :dt880smile:

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Um, I don't think that bluetooth is a must on a Hi-Res dap, considering that even with the latest version 4.0,  it still have to compress the sound before streaming over  , as long as you use lossy formats it should be ok but imagine bluetooth streaming of 24/192 !!!

There are some lossless bluetooth devices and headphones but they mostly stream max to flac/alac (700-1400kbps) quality , it will be tough on Hi- Res 24 bit and don't even think about native DSD

Oh, I certainly agree. I'm just pointing out if someone really does want Bluetooth, there are options.
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I like X1 GUI so much...

Hope we'll see this GUI for X5 smily_headphones1.gif

Yes, please 😄
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Must resist X1... No more DAPs... Why did I sub this thread???
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Same reason most of us did, impulse control issues.
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Originally Posted by MelloWatic View Post
 

Hi twister6, I noticed you also have the Clip+.

 

I was wondering if you can post a picture of the Clip+ and X1 side by side (To see their size difference),

 

as well as compared the sound quality & signature between the two DAPs.

 

 

Thanks.


Sorry, don't have it anymore; my profile has a history list of everything :)  In comparison, X1 kills default Clip+ and Clip Sport in sound quality.  Rockbox is not available for Clip Sport, but I heard it does improve Clip+, though I tried it awhile ago and switched back to stock.  I hope someone else can chime in with Rockboxed Clip+, but I will have a hard time believing that even optimized Clip+ will sound better than X1 with dac/amp, not to mention the build quality, screen quality, scrolling wheel control, LO, and so on...

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Regarding bluetooth, isn't X7 will be Android based?  So here we go, will wait for X7 ;)  BT4.0 with aptX codec actually has very reasonable and semi-transparent compression.  Watch out for some new stuff from Meelec guys in a near future, they are on the right path of wireless headphones...

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Same reason most of us did, impulse control issues.

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 You could be a great reviewer writing that much ;-)

 

Thanks, but I lack the prerequisite knowledge and experience so far.

 

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Um, I don't think that bluetooth is a must on a Hi-Res dap, considering that even with the latest version 4.0,  it still have to compress the sound before streaming over  , as long as you use lossy formats it should be ok but imagine bluetooth streaming of 24/192 !!!

There are some lossless bluetooth devices and headphones but they mostly stream max to flac/alac (700-1400kbps) quality , it will be tough on Hi- Res 24 bit and don't even think about native DSD

Oh, I certainly agree. I'm just pointing out if someone really does want Bluetooth, there are options.

 

I suggested the addon as a cost-effective method which supports more than just Bluetooth, as an answer to this guy's post:

 

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 It makes no sense to design it to have no built-in memory, even the Clip+ has it. At least 2 GB is a must nowadays.
I would suggest at least 3 colour versions: black, silver, white.
Bluetooth, NFC, WiFi? Is it possible at this price point? After all an audio streaming is a worldwide trend...
DAB digital radio?

 

And it kinda makes sense. This isn't the 600+ dollar world of hi-fi DAPs anymore. I find it difficult to believe the X1 was designed only to compete with other DAPs, because it'll naturally get stomped flat by anything in that price segment significantly more expensive, and as anyone to visit these forums well knows, price isn't usually a convincing argument in favor of sacrificing audio quality when talking to an audiophile, not for something as relatively paltry as a 100-200 dollar difference. No, this clearly is meant to compete with mainstream portable audio solutions like the Sansa MP3 players, smartphones, and the iPod Shuffle.

 

If they're lowering their prices to compete with mainstream solutions like smartphones and MP3 players, it kinda helps if they have more to offer than just better sound quality and file support, right? For that matter, the X1 doesn't even support DSD, so that's a nonissue for it. Now, I personally don't care about any of the features listed by this guy since I pretty much just use DAPs as DAPs and that's that. But if FiiO wants to attract more customers by making something that can compete with MP3 players like the lower-cost iPods or the Sansa Clip or any of the other options out there, they need features, too. To the average person looking for a decent portable media player, sound quality is just one consideration. They may also want to listen to the radio, text people over IM clients on a touchscreen, etc. Making it an option to upgrade FiiO's X-series lineup with some of those features via this addon would help them sell better in the mainstream market and also provide audiophiles with more features in between listening to lossless audio on 300 dollar headphones. It's hard for me to see the downside. The DAPs already have the ability to play music at satisfying levels from storage. It's not like having Bluetooth/wifi/radio/kitchen sink is going to get rid of that, it's just not likely to help it all that much. TL;DR: Not a must, but it's nice to have and it'll lure in more people who aren't audiophiles.

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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

Same reason most of us did, impulse control issues.


Amen.

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Originally Posted by twister6 View Post

Regarding bluetooth, isn't X7 will be Android based?  So here we go, will wait for X7 wink.gif   BT4.0 with aptX codec actually has very reasonable and semi-transparent compression.  Watch out for some new stuff from Meelec guys in a near future, they are on the right path of wireless headphones...
I agree, I can not wait tell the release of the X7. Should be a great all around DAP, and hopefully a AKXXX killer.
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Edited by swannie007 - 8/26/14 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by Ultrainferno View Post


Have you read anything from this thread? Even just a post or 3 up?

Didn't really feel like sifting through 100plus pages of submissions to find out. Your sarcasm is not appreciated.

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Hi James,

 

can you please tell me if there is a difference between the headphone socket which you can switch to LO and this USB LO output (from the technical specification view)?

 

I already have a X3 since last year an very happy, but I want to buy the X1 as well, to use them with a portable AMP with LO connection.

 

 

And do you have any rough idea which date I can buy this nice DAP in Germany?:smile:

 

Thanks!

 

There are not any difference between the LO and the USB LO. just design the USB LO for the docking amp. and we plan to ship X1 from 20th, Sept to global market.


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Is this DAP available yet? If so, where? Thanx.


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Originally Posted by swannie007 View Post

Is this DAP available yet? If so, where? Thanx.

Have you read anything from this thread? Even just a post or 3 up?

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Originally Posted by swannie007 View Post

Really didn't feel like sifting through 100 plus pages of submissions to find out. Your sarcasm is not appreciated.

You are just really unlucky right here.

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Originally Posted by francopro View Post


As James mentioned on the previous page, the X1 shall be available to buy after the 20th of september. Actually, we only have the review samples on a running world tour, you might get some physical and/or software improvements on the retail version, keep an eye on this thread for the coming weeks. Cheers

Thanks for your kind reply, much appreciated.

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