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post #1711 of 7658

Is this DAP available yet? If so, where? Thanx.

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Originally Posted by swannie007 View Post

Is this DAP available yet? If so, where? Thanx.

Have you read anything from this thread? Even just a post or 3 up?
post #1713 of 7658
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Originally Posted by swannie007 View Post

Is this DAP available yet? If so, where? Thanx.

As James mentioned on the previous page, the X1 shall be available to buy after the 20th of september. Actually, we only have the review samples on a running world tour, you might get some physical and/or software improvements on the retail version, keep an eye on this thread for the coming weeks. Cheers
post #1714 of 7658
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Originally Posted by truthless View Post

I'm a total newbie when it comes to DAP's, but would I see an improvement in sound quality, if I buy the FiiO X1 compared to the Ipod Shuffle 4th Generation? I will any way buy the X1 DAP. But I'm still curious.

IMO even the worst audiophile dap sounds better than any ipod touch or classic on stock firmwares, here you're talking about the shuffle which has the worst sound quality, dac and storage capacity amongs the ipods' lineup, it's like comparing dvd with bluray
Edited by francopro - 8/25/14 at 10:57pm
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Just wanted to say that I own an X5. I live out in China so I got one early for relatively cheap. A Samsung Pro 64 gig SDXC chip is acting as storage. Now, I've used the Sansa Fuze, Clip, Fuze+, and Clip+. And a 6th generation iPod Classic with 160 gigs of storage space. Of these, my favorite has to be the original Fuze. It used a nice-feeling mechanical clickwheel and it survived all manner of abuse. The Clips were good, too, but no micro SD slot. I wasn't overly fond of the iPod's touchpad and the mechanical HDD inside it broke twice within a year. My LEAST favorite device was the Fuze+ with its horrendous touchpad.

 

When I heard about FiiO's products, I kept a close eye on them. I saw the X3 and was instantly impressed. Much better specs than any MP3 player I've ever seen, more file support, it could be used as a DAC, and it had an expansion slot. Then I heard about the X5, still in beta. It looked like everything I'd wanted in a media player. A mechanical clickwheel, a very durable case, and not one but two micro SD slots. And to top it all off, it had specs on par with medium-level sound cards and DACs. My positive impressions have only been reinforced by actually handling it. It's built like a tank: I bet I could run it over with an SUV and it'd still work. Everything works as advertised and it sounds far better than anything I've used before, not that my experience is exactly a good point of reference for the discerning audiophile. My only personal gripe, and it's a minor one, is the clickwheel is a TAD too sensitive. But the only other problem with the X5 is a lack of real built-in memory, but for the price point, that's understandable: If you're buying a DAP with two micro SD slots, you're definitely gonna be using 'em.

 

This device looks like everything good about the X5 right down to the durable brushed metal case, except it lacks DAC capabilities but also lacks the giant pricetag of the X5. It looks like something anyone who used a Fuze before would immediately upgrade to if their Fuze went bust. Since I'm fond of the Fuze, I'd say I like the A design because, as others said, it allows more info onscreen per song at once. It's far easier to scroll up and down a menu than it is to hold over a song and wait for it to slowly stream across the screen. It worked well on the X5 and Fuze. It'll work well for the X1, too.

 

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 It makes no sense to design it to have no built-in memory, even the Clip+ has it. At least 2 GB is a must nowadays.
I would suggest at least 3 colour versions: black, silver, white.
Bluetooth, NFC, WiFi? Is it possible at this price point? After all an audio streaming is a worldwide trend...
DAB digital radio?

 

Perhaps FiiO could make some kind of addon for it? Just an idea. Something relatively inexpensive that you can buy separately and add onto the X1, or put into a bundle pack with their DAPs for a little more than the normal price. Like, anyone here ever used a Game Boy Advance before? First-gen, not SP. They had some lights/magnifiers/screen protectors which plugged into the GBA link port on the top of the device but also had an identical female GBA connector just on the other side, so you could still do stuff like trade in Pokemon or wire it up to a Game Cube. Ideally, the addon should be compatible with every FiiO DAP, which ergonomically means something fairly flat and thin that covers part of the bottom of the players. Although this would require multiple male connectors on the device, if they're strategically positioned so as not to put the addon in the way of things like the X3's line out, they could work for this. (They WILL block the micro SD ports on the X5 but if you're tinkering with those, you probably have the player off anyway, so that's not really important.) This would prevent anything awkward like dealing with dangling cables. As with the GBA, on the other end of the addon should be a port or set of ports for a micro USB connector to keep the player's ability to be plugged into a computer for music file transfers, firmware updates or use as a DAC. (Although in the latter case, it's probably better that it's used without the addon.) Now, the question is, what are the features on the addon? Okay, so it does Bluetooth, NFC, and/or wi-fi. I'll stop short of joking about adding in a tiny cheap GPU for video playback- Whoops, I just did it. They have nice screens, but that's probably a bridge too far given how the DAPs are designed. The rest sounds within reason. Anyway, the end result is something which provides mainstream features that can work on any FiiO player, ensuring that they don't need to buy something again to use with another player and saving them from having to sacrifice these features if they, say, upgrade from an X1 to an X7.


Edited by 343 Grenadier - 8/25/14 at 11:05pm
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343 Grenadier aren't you a bit too late to mention something like this? I mean next month the device will be shipped all over the world and I don't think James whould still do something about the design just some tuning. After all if you want more features get over it and buy something else. I personally just want this freaking awesome Player :3
post #1717 of 7658
Bluetooth 3.5mm adapters exist, and I'd imagine there has to be one good one at least out there for that feature.
post #1718 of 7658
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 343 Grenadier aren't you a bit too late to mention something like this? I mean next month the device will be shipped all over the world and I don't think James whould still do something about the design just some tuning. After all if you want more features get over it and buy something else. I personally just want this freaking awesome Player :3

 

I just got here, and it's not a big deal to me, personally, but apparently it is to some people. The thing is, the suggestion can probably work even after they release the X1. The idea is something that'll work on ANY FiiO player, not just the X1.

 

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 Bluetooth 3.5mm adapters exist, and I'd imagine there has to be one good one at least out there for that feature.

 

That could work, but Bluetooth is one of the features "Justblue" complained about. (Wow, that's a really ironic name given the topic.) Anyway, I was just thinking it could add still more convenience to the X series of DAPs, giving them more appeal over the competition, which is starting to try and crank out their own value DAPs to compete. Thing is, they don't have the USB DAC features the X3 and X5 have, and I don't think anyone else has such heavy emphasis on addressing the infernal nuisance storing music files creates for people. I was sold on the basis of the double micro SD slots alone, and I'm not exactly an audiophile. It could've been a bog-standard MP3 player and I'd have gone for it. My point is convenience matters a lot, too, which is why this thread was talking about the shape the player should be.

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Originally Posted by 343 Grenadier View Post

I just got here, and it's not a big deal to me, personally, but apparently it is to some people. The thing is, the suggestion can probably work even after they release the X1. The idea is something that'll work on ANY FiiO player, not just the X1.


That could work, but Bluetooth is one of the features "Justblue" complained about. (Wow, that's a really ironic name given the topic.) Anyway, I was just thinking it could add still more convenience to the X series of DAPs, giving them more appeal over the competition, which is starting to try and crank out their own value DAPs to compete. Thing is, they don't have the USB DAC features the X3 and X5 have, and I don't think anyone else has such heavy emphasis on addressing the infernal nuisance storing music files creates for people. I was sold on the basis of the double micro SD slots alone, and I'm not exactly an audiophile. It could've been a bog-standard MP3 player and I'd have gone for it. My point is convenience matters a lot, too, which is why this thread was talking about the shape the player should be.
You could be a great reviewer writing that much ;-)
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I'm using X1 with E11K for 2 days now, and I think it will be nice, if Fiio can develop some proprietary interface to connect DAP and amp, so DAP can remotely turn amp on and off. I'm always forgetting to turn off E11K smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by francopro View Post


IMO even the worst audiophile dap sounds better than any ipod touch or classic on stock firmwares, here you're talking about the shuffle which has the worst sound quality, dac and storage capacity amongs the ipods' lineup, it's like comparing dvd with bluray


That sounds devastating haha. Good to know then.^^

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Hey guys , today i can hear some frequencies opening on the X1 , after 5-6 hours of burn in the sound seems to be clearer and less muddy than on first listening , yesterday I did have to tune the EQ to a slight U shape to get things balanced but now even with EQ off , I'm hearing a very natural and neutral sound signature. That's really amazing to see real improvements after just a couple of hours.

 

Can any other reviewer confirm sound improvements after a little burn in session ?

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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

Bluetooth 3.5mm adapters exist, and I'd imagine there has to be one good one at least out there for that feature.


Um, I don't think that bluetooth is a must on a Hi-Res dap, considering that even with the latest version 4.0,  it still have to compress the sound before streaming over  , as long as you use lossy formats it should be ok but imagine bluetooth streaming of 24/192 !!!

 

There are some lossless bluetooth devices and headphones but they mostly stream max to flac/alac (700-1400kbps) quality , it will be tough on Hi- Res 24 bit and don't even think about native DSD


Edited by francopro - 8/26/14 at 6:52am
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Originally Posted by francopro View Post
 

 

Can any other reviewer confirm sound improvements after a little burn in session ?

 

not really. Sounded pretty much the same from the start but the box had been opened so maybe it was used.

I'm loving the X1. It's not like my AK120ii or AK240 but I still love it!

post #1725 of 7658
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Originally Posted by francopro View Post

Hey guys , today i can hear some frequencies opening on the X1 , after 5-6 hours of burn in the sound seems to be clearer and less muddy than on first listening , yesterday I did have to tune the EQ to a slight U shape to get things balanced but now even with EQ off , I'm hearing a very natural and neutral sound signature. That's really amazing to see real improvements after just a couple of hours.

Can any other reviewer confirm sound improvements after a little burn in session ?

You are probably in a better mood today or something.
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